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"The discovery of the Jewish virus is one of the greatest revolutions that has taken place in the world. The battle in which we are engaged today is of the same

by qznc 10y ago

"The discovery of the Jewish virus is one of the greatest revolutions that has taken place in the world. The battle in which we are engaged today is of the same sort as the battle waged, during the last century, by Pasteur and Koch. How many diseases have their origin in the Jewish virus! ... We shall regain our health only be eliminating the Jew." – Hitler 17% toxic.

qznc 10y ago
If I use my full comment above (not just the part in quotation marks) it says 25% toxic. I think it is mostly a profanity filter.
- elcapitan 10y ago
  The same quote is only 12% "toxic" if you remove the ... inside, and only 10% if you quote the entire thing (with ").
- TillE 10y ago
  For anyone who's used Google Translate, it should be entirely unsurprising that the best "AI" we can cook up appears to be doing little more than rating individual words. I admire the effort, but the tools seem to be so fundamentally lacking.
  - ilyaeck 10y ago
    Give it some time. ML improves with usage and training data.
    - mejari 10y ago
      While this is true, ML isn't a panacea that will solve all problems given time and training data.
jkaptur 10y ago
"Toxic" seems to be the wrong word for this tool. Another commenter used the word "polished". I think we can agree that the sentence you quoted is "polished"?
- striking 10y ago
  Hitler's speeches are anything but polished. In my opinion, his speeches display only a rudimentary grasp of rhetoric. I'd disagree that that sentence is polished in any way beyond basic syntactic and grammar rules.
Houshalter 10y ago
For fun I tried to change the meaning of the quote but leave most of the words and syntax: "The discovery of the Polio virus is one of the greatest revolutions that has taken place in the world. The battle in which we are engaged today is of the same sort as the battle waged, during the last century, by Jonas Salk. How many diseases have their origin in the Polio virus! ... We shall regain our health only be eliminating Polio." 5% toxicity. So just talking about Jews makes a quote 4 times more toxic. Interestingly, the word "toxic" itself also makes a quote 4 times more toxic. But personally I don't think Hitler quotes should be rated as toxic. The point isn't to control what people say, but how they say it.
- angusp 10y ago
  Depends how you define toxicity - a toxic idea or toxic wording. The Hitler comment is obviously toxic in meaning but is 'eloquently' worded (or, at least as much as it could be given it is literally Nazism.) I am at least relieved that this doesn't appear to be an Idea police AI nor a particularly liberally biased classifier

by qznc 10y ago

qznc 10y ago

If I use my full comment above (not just the part in quotation marks) it says 25% toxic. I think it is mostly a profanity filter.

elcapitan 10y ago
The same quote is only 12% "toxic" if you remove the ... inside, and only 10% if you quote the entire thing (with ").
TillE 10y ago
For anyone who's used Google Translate, it should be entirely unsurprising that the best "AI" we can cook up appears to be doing little more than rating individual words. I admire the effort, but the tools seem to be so fundamentally lacking.
- ilyaeck 10y ago
  Give it some time. ML improves with usage and training data.
  - mejari 10y ago
    While this is true, ML isn't a panacea that will solve all problems given time and training data.

jkaptur 10y ago

"Toxic" seems to be the wrong word for this tool. Another commenter used the word "polished". I think we can agree that the sentence you quoted is "polished"?

striking 10y ago
Hitler's speeches are anything but polished. In my opinion, his speeches display only a rudimentary grasp of rhetoric. I'd disagree that that sentence is polished in any way beyond basic syntactic and grammar rules.

Houshalter 10y ago

For fun I tried to change the meaning of the quote but leave most of the words and syntax: "The discovery of the Polio virus is one of the greatest revolutions that has taken place in the world. The battle in which we are engaged today is of the same sort as the battle waged, during the last century, by Jonas Salk. How many diseases have their origin in the Polio virus! ... We shall regain our health only be eliminating Polio." 5% toxicity. So just talking about Jews makes a quote 4 times more toxic. Interestingly, the word "toxic" itself also makes a quote 4 times more toxic. But personally I don't think Hitler quotes should be rated as toxic. The point isn't to control what people say, but how they say it.

angusp 10y ago
Depends how you define toxicity - a toxic idea or toxic wording. The Hitler comment is obviously toxic in meaning but is 'eloquently' worded (or, at least as much as it could be given it is literally Nazism.) I am at least relieved that this doesn't appear to be an Idea police AI nor a particularly liberally biased classifier