> And one more thing, not to downplay managers contributions, but developers are the ones making things happen, we really need more credit for our work. In tod

> And one more thing, not to downplay managers contributions, but developers are the ones making things happen, we really need more credit for our work. In today's economically-rationalised times, there isn't much in the way of non-essential work anymore. Fire the janitorial staff and see how long your 6-figure staff stick around, for example. Or for a more direct example, fire your sales and marketing staff, and see how long the company survives. Yes, you can always find an example of a company that works without a person in position X (including plenty who don't have in-house developers), but almost everyone is hired today to fill a need rather than a head-count.