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Does anyone have context for this?

by codeplea 10y ago

kod 10y ago
see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13710712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13710712
M_Grey 10y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022
carbocation 10y ago
If this is related to current events, then it would most likely be related to https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-on...
- wyldfire 10y ago
  This is astonishing! Regardless of whether it's related to the other departures, it sounds unbelievable. > It became obvious that both HR and management had been lying about this being "his first offense", and it certainly wasn't his last. Wow, at what point do you hire an attorney and bring a suit? I don't know anything about sexual harassment but this smacks of something that only punitive damages could correct. You always hear that "HR is not your friend" [because they are looking out for the company's best interest, which might not align with yours]. But when the perpetrator of harassment goes unpunished, certainly they're no longer looking out for the best interests of the company anymore. Do private equity firms audit their investments for this kind of craziness? What a way to absolutely destroy a brand while losing lots of money.
- Turing_Machine 10y ago
  Assuming this is as described, two things need to happen: 1) Ms Fowler needs to get a lawyer. 2) That lawyer needs to tell her to STFU.
  - veidr 10y ago
    Why? I really don't think she has anything to fear from Uber. And if you read her post, she doesn't seem interested in devoting the next phase of her life litigating and reliving that experience -- it is very clear that she's moved on.
    - Turing_Machine 10y ago
      "I really don't think she has anything to fear from Uber." The people she describes (who may or may not have any relation to actual Uber employees) sound like exactly the sort of people who would launch a defamation lawsuit, whether there were actual grounds for it or not. " And if you read her post, she doesn't seem interested in devoting the next phase of her life litigating and reliving that experience" Plans change, and having a credible countersuit waiting in the wings can be a useful thing, whether or not it ever actually gets deployed. I repeat: I would recommend that she talk to a lawyer immediately.
      - tdb7893 10y ago
        Defamation lawsuit would just draw way more attention and prolong this story for even longer. Litigating against her without some really really good evidence would be ridiculous

Does anyone have context for this?

kod 10y ago

see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13710712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13710712

M_Grey 10y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022

carbocation 10y ago

If this is related to current events, then it would most likely be related to https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-on...

wyldfire 10y ago
This is astonishing! Regardless of whether it's related to the other departures, it sounds unbelievable. > It became obvious that both HR and management had been lying about this being "his first offense", and it certainly wasn't his last. Wow, at what point do you hire an attorney and bring a suit? I don't know anything about sexual harassment but this smacks of something that only punitive damages could correct. You always hear that "HR is not your friend" [because they are looking out for the company's best interest, which might not align with yours]. But when the perpetrator of harassment goes unpunished, certainly they're no longer looking out for the best interests of the company anymore. Do private equity firms audit their investments for this kind of craziness? What a way to absolutely destroy a brand while losing lots of money.
Turing_Machine 10y ago
Assuming this is as described, two things need to happen: 1) Ms Fowler needs to get a lawyer. 2) That lawyer needs to tell her to STFU.
- veidr 10y ago
  Why? I really don't think she has anything to fear from Uber. And if you read her post, she doesn't seem interested in devoting the next phase of her life litigating and reliving that experience -- it is very clear that she's moved on.
  - Turing_Machine 10y ago
    "I really don't think she has anything to fear from Uber." The people she describes (who may or may not have any relation to actual Uber employees) sound like exactly the sort of people who would launch a defamation lawsuit, whether there were actual grounds for it or not. " And if you read her post, she doesn't seem interested in devoting the next phase of her life litigating and reliving that experience" Plans change, and having a credible countersuit waiting in the wings can be a useful thing, whether or not it ever actually gets deployed. I repeat: I would recommend that she talk to a lawyer immediately.
    - tdb7893 10y ago
      Defamation lawsuit would just draw way more attention and prolong this story for even longer. Litigating against her without some really really good evidence would be ridiculous