not parent, but this was posted elsewhere http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11171475 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?

not parent, but this was posted elsewhere http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11171475 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objecti...