> just be aware that Ryzen is probably operating much closer to it's limit than the Intel counterparts, so overclocking could be limited. Overclocking is also

> just be aware that Ryzen is probably operating much closer to it's limit than the Intel counterparts, so overclocking could be limited. Overclocking is also limited on the Intel counterparts, so that's not really a big deal. Most kaby lakes won't do 5ghz, and good ones hit the wall at 5ghz. That's not much of an increase over the stock 4.2/4.5ghz for the 7700K Also AMD is claiming a lower TDP than Intel, so that would suggest Ryzen has more OC headroom than Intel has. Although of course this is all wait-and-see.