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Feature parity and market penetration. FP and AVX are middling, no iGPU, fewer PCIe lanes, and they've got keep firm hold of that budget build bracket. In case

Feature parity and market penetration. FP and AVX are middling, no iGPU, fewer PCIe lanes, and they've got keep firm hold of that budget build bracket. In case you were also wondering why Intel's pricing has been so obscene, it's to do with AMD's underwhelming pre-Zen microarchitectures and having had no serious competition in the past decade until now.

solotronics 10y ago
do we think Intel will drastically drop prices on middle and high end chips?
- emn13 10y ago
  My guess: Not right away. It's going to take a while for AMD to gain trust; and if intel massively drops prices that will if anything accelerate that effect. A dramatic price drop would tell your clients that you indeed gouged them and that AMD's chip is a serious competitor. I'd expect them to make token gestures in MSRP and quietly make larger drops in practice; and to accelerate new models so it appears as if those new models are better price/perf wise due to their great new design. Oh and of course, intel's 7700k is still quite a bit faster per-core, and there's AVX, so intel can play those cards loudly. I'd argue that even today almost all people are best served by a few fast cores than many slightly slower ones; there;s just so much poorly scaling software around. And where multicore works really well trivial the GPU is often just around the corner... For servers the story may be different.
- usrusr 10y ago
  The capitalist playbook suggests that street prices won't see the same price drop as important OEMs threatening to launch a big AMD line. That way, Intel sells to those OEMs not only the hardware but also the promise that end customers will think that the parts were more expensive.
- rasz_pl 10y ago
  They might play dirty games instead (again). Intel loves incentivising its distributors with bonuses and deal combos. Sell top Intel CPU + expensive motherboard with top Intel chipset = receive free Intel SSD etc. Of course distributors are free to do what they like with those rewards, consumers almost never even know about it = bigger hidden margins for pushing hiend models.

solotronics 10y ago

do we think Intel will drastically drop prices on middle and high end chips?

emn13 10y ago
My guess: Not right away. It's going to take a while for AMD to gain trust; and if intel massively drops prices that will if anything accelerate that effect. A dramatic price drop would tell your clients that you indeed gouged them and that AMD's chip is a serious competitor. I'd expect them to make token gestures in MSRP and quietly make larger drops in practice; and to accelerate new models so it appears as if those new models are better price/perf wise due to their great new design. Oh and of course, intel's 7700k is still quite a bit faster per-core, and there's AVX, so intel can play those cards loudly. I'd argue that even today almost all people are best served by a few fast cores than many slightly slower ones; there;s just so much poorly scaling software around. And where multicore works really well trivial the GPU is often just around the corner... For servers the story may be different.
usrusr 10y ago
The capitalist playbook suggests that street prices won't see the same price drop as important OEMs threatening to launch a big AMD line. That way, Intel sells to those OEMs not only the hardware but also the promise that end customers will think that the parts were more expensive.
rasz_pl 10y ago
They might play dirty games instead (again). Intel loves incentivising its distributors with bonuses and deal combos. Sell top Intel CPU + expensive motherboard with top Intel chipset = receive free Intel SSD etc. Of course distributors are free to do what they like with those rewards, consumers almost never even know about it = bigger hidden margins for pushing hiend models.