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I don't know what your problem is? Somebody asked for how to spot fake news or find the truth, I answered. Just because everybody could look for certain signs,

I don't know what your problem is? Somebody asked for how to spot fake news or find the truth, I answered. Just because everybody could look for certain signs, doesn't mean everybody does. Everybody can learn about certain signs. If the person asking already knew them all, why did they ask? Then their question was vacuous, not my reply. Just because a question has an obvious answer, the answer is vacuous? What is going on in your mind? What are you driving at? Have you ever read one of those books about how to lie with statistics? You really, really should.

tomlock 10y ago
The question you were responding to was about people bought up in an environment where they had no access to other sources of knowledge. I think a response that suggests that everybody ought to know how to determine fact from fiction is in that context a little heartless. Thanks for the recommendation on reading a book about stats - which would you recommend? I already work on statistical models in my job and would probably get in trouble if they didn't lead to tangible results so I might even have the book on hand.
- facepalm 10y ago
  You working on statistical models is a scary thought, given that you seemed unable to understand my criticism of my primitive analysis of lofeatgoogle. I read a book in German (specifically on how to lie with statistics), don't know which ones to recommend in English. There is the obvious one with the name "how to lie with statistics", but it is very old. Otoh, available for free (but I haven't read it). Feynman, too, don't forget about Feynman. http://www.ar-tiste.com/feynman-on-honesty.html http://www.ar-tiste.com/feynman-on-honesty.html Thinking, Fast and Slow was a lot about bias, but not sure if it really gets the point across effectively. Seeing how you interpret my comments, maybe starting with statistics is actually backwards. Perhaps start with language and communication first? Sorry if my comment sounds mean, but it really seems a bit crazy how you try to bend my comments into something outrageous.
  - tomlock 10y ago
    Your claims, that the lifeatgoogle twitter showed a bias towards women and PoCs that indicated google wasn't interested in hiring men, aren't the topic that's being communicated in this thread.
    - facepalm 10y ago
      I didn't say they were.
      - tomlock 10y ago
        Why did you bring it up then?

tomlock 10y ago

The question you were responding to was about people bought up in an environment where they had no access to other sources of knowledge. I think a response that suggests that everybody ought to know how to determine fact from fiction is in that context a little heartless. Thanks for the recommendation on reading a book about stats - which would you recommend? I already work on statistical models in my job and would probably get in trouble if they didn't lead to tangible results so I might even have the book on hand.

facepalm 10y ago
You working on statistical models is a scary thought, given that you seemed unable to understand my criticism of my primitive analysis of lofeatgoogle. I read a book in German (specifically on how to lie with statistics), don't know which ones to recommend in English. There is the obvious one with the name "how to lie with statistics", but it is very old. Otoh, available for free (but I haven't read it). Feynman, too, don't forget about Feynman. http://www.ar-tiste.com/feynman-on-honesty.html http://www.ar-tiste.com/feynman-on-honesty.html Thinking, Fast and Slow was a lot about bias, but not sure if it really gets the point across effectively. Seeing how you interpret my comments, maybe starting with statistics is actually backwards. Perhaps start with language and communication first? Sorry if my comment sounds mean, but it really seems a bit crazy how you try to bend my comments into something outrageous.
- tomlock 10y ago
  Your claims, that the lifeatgoogle twitter showed a bias towards women and PoCs that indicated google wasn't interested in hiring men, aren't the topic that's being communicated in this thread.
  - facepalm 10y ago
    I didn't say they were.
    - tomlock 10y ago
      Why did you bring it up then?