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> This is partly why I don't understand the left's animosity towards Trump's economic plan - he intends to bring jobs back to the US by hobbling corporations th

> This is partly why I don't understand the left's animosity towards Trump's economic plan - he intends to bring jobs back to the US by hobbling corporations that have been exploiting poorer countries for profit Because it won't work. Tell a company to pay higher wages for the same positions by bringing them home, and that'll push them toward automation even faster. These jobs may return for a short while. But that only brings false hope. And then we're right back to where we are today, hurting even more people in the process. It's extremely short-sighted. Here's just one article on the matter https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602869/manufacturing-jobs-arent-coming-back/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602869/manufacturing-jobs... Also note that Foxconn has already begun automating their plants. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966 So it's already a demonstratably viable option for these companies. What we really need is to bring _automation_ home and have some serious discussions around solutions for these real struggling people instead of spouting the hand-wavy "bringing jobs back to the US" rhetoric.

flukus 10y ago
> Because it won't work. Tell a company to pay higher wages for the same positions by bringing them home, and that'll push them toward automation even faster. We're nowhere close to 100% automation. To create a successful return of manufacturing jobs doesn't mean replacing every single job that went overseas.
- joeyespo 10y ago
  > We're nowhere close to 100% automation It doesn't have to be 100% for it to affect people depending on this industry. > doesn't mean replacing every single job that went overseas Sure. But again, assuming there will be enough manufacturing jobs that do return, this is still a _short-term_ solution. You're fooling yourself, and a lot of hard-working people, if you believe these jobs will stick around another 10 years. Let me take a step back for a moment. If doing this eases the daily struggle for real people nation-wide, that's convincing. But let's not then sweep the real discussions around automation under the rug. Let's address this now before the jobs inevitably dissolve again.
flukus 10y ago
> Because it won't work. Tell a company to pay higher wages for the same positions by bringing them home, and that'll push them toward automation even faster. We're nowhere close to 100% automation. To create a successful return of manufacturing jobs doesn't mean replacing every single job that went overseas.

flukus 10y ago

> Because it won't work. Tell a company to pay higher wages for the same positions by bringing them home, and that'll push them toward automation even faster. We're nowhere close to 100% automation. To create a successful return of manufacturing jobs doesn't mean replacing every single job that went overseas.

joeyespo 10y ago
> We're nowhere close to 100% automation It doesn't have to be 100% for it to affect people depending on this industry. > doesn't mean replacing every single job that went overseas Sure. But again, assuming there will be enough manufacturing jobs that do return, this is still a _short-term_ solution. You're fooling yourself, and a lot of hard-working people, if you believe these jobs will stick around another 10 years. Let me take a step back for a moment. If doing this eases the daily struggle for real people nation-wide, that's convincing. But let's not then sweep the real discussions around automation under the rug. Let's address this now before the jobs inevitably dissolve again.

flukus 10y ago