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what about the old My-dog-ate-my-sim-card-routine aka ditching your 2fa token ... like i really don';t know because I denied myself access: "...Then, before yo

what about the old My-dog-ate-my-sim-card-routine aka ditching your 2fa token ... like i really don';t know because I denied myself access: "...Then, before you cross the border, make sure you don’t have the SIM card that allows you—or customs officials—to receive that text message, essentially denying yourself the ability to cooperate with agents even if you wanted to. Zdziarski suggests mailing yourself the SIM card, or destroying it and then recovering the accounts with backup codes" https://www.wired.com/2017/02/guide-getting-past-customs-digital-privacy-intact/ https://www.wired.com/2017/02/guide-getting-past-customs-dig...

Freak_NL 10y ago
Then you will quite possibly be denied access simply because they cannot harvest your social media profiles for profiling. Kennywinker's comment is right that technological cleverness won't help much here. Carry no devices, and you are suspicious and/or non-cooperative (unless you are over the age of sixty). Carry devices with no data, and you are suspicious and/or non-cooperative. Carry devices with carefully prepared fake profiles and datasets and you might pass muster… or be regarded as suspicious, non-cooperative, and/or actively resisting (if the border agent judging you suspects he is seeing fake data). I wonder how they are trained to react to people without social media accounts.
- pdpi 10y ago
  > Then you will quite possibly be denied access simply because they cannot harvest your social media profiles for profiling. Not just because they can't. Because you specifically took steps to prevent them from doing it.
  - OJFord 10y ago
    > Because you specifically took steps to prevent them from doing it. ... or I'm travelling with my local SIM to avoid roaming charges?
    - pdpi 10y ago
      That only works if you've already been to the US and have a local SIM card. Also — you left your home country SIM at home because you don't care about the roaming charges back home getting to/returning from the airport?
      - OJFord 10y ago
        > you left your home country SIM at home because you don't care about the roaming charges back home getting to/returning from the airport? Because I don't want to lose it. This is exactly how I've travelled before hearing that this 'handover your passwords' existed. No roaming charges because it's not being used - I can live without a very functional phone between the WiFi at the airport in my home country, and home. (Actually, right now I don't even carry the dumbphone that has my SIM it. I'm content with WiFi.)

Freak_NL 10y ago

Then you will quite possibly be denied access simply because they cannot harvest your social media profiles for profiling. Kennywinker's comment is right that technological cleverness won't help much here. Carry no devices, and you are suspicious and/or non-cooperative (unless you are over the age of sixty). Carry devices with no data, and you are suspicious and/or non-cooperative. Carry devices with carefully prepared fake profiles and datasets and you might pass muster… or be regarded as suspicious, non-cooperative, and/or actively resisting (if the border agent judging you suspects he is seeing fake data). I wonder how they are trained to react to people without social media accounts.

pdpi 10y ago
> Then you will quite possibly be denied access simply because they cannot harvest your social media profiles for profiling. Not just because they can't. Because you specifically took steps to prevent them from doing it.
- OJFord 10y ago
  > Because you specifically took steps to prevent them from doing it. ... or I'm travelling with my local SIM to avoid roaming charges?
  - pdpi 10y ago
    That only works if you've already been to the US and have a local SIM card. Also — you left your home country SIM at home because you don't care about the roaming charges back home getting to/returning from the airport?
    - OJFord 10y ago
      > you left your home country SIM at home because you don't care about the roaming charges back home getting to/returning from the airport? Because I don't want to lose it. This is exactly how I've travelled before hearing that this 'handover your passwords' existed. No roaming charges because it's not being used - I can live without a very functional phone between the WiFi at the airport in my home country, and home. (Actually, right now I don't even carry the dumbphone that has my SIM it. I'm content with WiFi.)