I understand, I just don't get why a good job doesn't qualify. Work projects are much longer and more complicated than school projects, you're working with acco

I understand, I just don't get why a good job doesn't qualify. Work projects are much longer and more complicated than school projects, you're working with accomplished professionals in the field, and at a good office you're surrounded by people with the same traits and passion. I know anecdotes don't mean much, but I'm sure you went to school with people who didn't give a shit, and I'm sure you've worked with great engineers who didn't go to college or have a non-CS degree. Obviously it's up to you who you hire, but I'd encourage you to give a couple non-degree candidates a shot next time. Just ask them questions about the stuff you've mentioned here. Tell me about some projects you've worked on, what are you passionate about, how do you keep up with current technology, etc. It's not that hard to make sure someone meets the same baseline of "you're committed enough to not drop out of college".