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I work at a university and don't find that my students are protected from dealing with uncomfortable topics. I do find that they're more willing to talk about u

by kaitai 10y ago

I work at a university and don't find that my students are protected from dealing with uncomfortable topics. I do find that they're more willing to talk about uncomfortable topics than in the past -- people say they don't like x or y and do like z or w rather than simply remaining politely silent as they have in other times. There seems to be an idea that you have to listen silently with socially-appropriate nodding to speakers about uncomfortable topics in order to have "dealt with them", and instead a lot of students argue back these days. Which is better, lie back & listen or have a discussion? While it's occasionally uncomfortable to have students argue with me, it's much less a waste of my time than talking to a room of cell-phone-illuminated slack expressions.

hueving 10y ago
>a lot of students argue back these days. Which is better, lie back & listen or have a discussion? Arguing back is great! What's not is petitioning to have you banned from the campus or punished in a title 9 inquisition[1] because the topics you taught made them uncomfortable. 1. http://laurakipnis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/My-Title-IX-Inquisition-The-Chronicle-Review-.pdf http://laurakipnis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/My-Title-I...
- kaitai 10y ago
  If you read the petition, it doesn't say anything about being banned from campus [1]. The title IX investigation was ridiculously mishandled, agreed, and the two grad student complainants also allege it was mishandled [2]. The whole thing involves at least 4 title IX investigations and four+ lawsuits if you're going to count the original sexual harassment lawsuits Kipnis wrote about in her Chronicle article (which is where she made the initial factual errors that led to some of the subsequent title IX complaints). I have to say, none of this was about anything she taught: it was about her commentary in a national publication on specific ongoing harassment lawsuits and countersuits. [1] https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScr34pXKmDVPSXbi4TQx2Yp01Rar8HOIm0nxxAOUhUSp-6waw/viewform https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScr34pXKmDVPSXbi4TQ... [2] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/31/laura-kipnis-essay-northwestern-title-ix_n_7470046.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/31/laura-kipnis-essay-...
  - hueving 10y ago
    > I have to say, none of this was about anything she taught: it was about her commentary in a national publication on That's what makes it so much worse. Just expressing an opinion off campus in public was enough to bring this on.

by kaitai 10y ago

hueving 10y ago

>a lot of students argue back these days. Which is better, lie back & listen or have a discussion? Arguing back is great! What's not is petitioning to have you banned from the campus or punished in a title 9 inquisition[1] because the topics you taught made them uncomfortable. 1. http://laurakipnis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/My-Title-IX-Inquisition-The-Chronicle-Review-.pdf http://laurakipnis.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/My-Title-I...

kaitai 10y ago
If you read the petition, it doesn't say anything about being banned from campus [1]. The title IX investigation was ridiculously mishandled, agreed, and the two grad student complainants also allege it was mishandled [2]. The whole thing involves at least 4 title IX investigations and four+ lawsuits if you're going to count the original sexual harassment lawsuits Kipnis wrote about in her Chronicle article (which is where she made the initial factual errors that led to some of the subsequent title IX complaints). I have to say, none of this was about anything she taught: it was about her commentary in a national publication on specific ongoing harassment lawsuits and countersuits. [1] https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScr34pXKmDVPSXbi4TQx2Yp01Rar8HOIm0nxxAOUhUSp-6waw/viewform https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScr34pXKmDVPSXbi4TQ... [2] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/31/laura-kipnis-essay-northwestern-title-ix_n_7470046.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/31/laura-kipnis-essay-...
- hueving 10y ago
  > I have to say, none of this was about anything she taught: it was about her commentary in a national publication on That's what makes it so much worse. Just expressing an opinion off campus in public was enough to bring this on.