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I think it's a matter of expectations and needs. I've been using Linux as my primary desktop OS off and on since 2005ish (first Gentoo, now Arch); it's been fin
by Zancarius 10y ago
I think it's a matter of expectations and needs. I've been using Linux as my primary desktop OS off and on since 2005ish (first Gentoo, now Arch); it's been fine for me, but I suspect my experience is largely different for a variety of reasons--mostly due to needs.
However, therein lies the rub: If you use Linux as a desktop environment with the expectation that everything is going to magically Just Work™, there's a greater chance you're going to be unpleasantly surprised. Then again, you might not (again, depending on needs), but if you're using predominantly Windows software and expect to be able to carry that over, it might not happen. I play some Windows games under Wine, and they generally work well, but there's a few that don't (like Guild Wars 2, but it's probably because the game is CPU bound). It happens. Use whatever works for you.
As to your specific complaints, it seems to me that most of them are largely outdated by now. OpenOffice/LibreOffice are good enough for the most part (certainly not as polished as MS Office), and the same applies to Inkscape and Gimp (both of which I use under Windows, so there's that). My GeForce GTX 1060 works fine with the NVIDIA kernel drivers; I've not had to edit my xorg.conf file in years (with dual monitors!); audio works fine, yes even using PulseAudio; and UTF-8 is a non-issue (installing the correct fonts does wonders, but make sure to change them in your browser profile!). My webcam works great as well, but I selected it specifically for its Linux compatibility. Same for an ancient HP LaserJet printer.
So, I think things have certainly improved--they have since I started using Gentoo. That's not to say you should expect smooth sailing, of course. For my part, I like tinkering with my OS and generally don't mind it when I break something. If that's out of the question and you need something that's going to work out of the box, Linux probably isn't something you should be using in the first place, especially if you have esoteric needs. I won't wax philosophical about "oh, you just need to do X" when certain software is going to work better on Windows, for instance, but having used Linux for my desktop OS as long as I have, I can't complain. I actually grumble more when I have to boot to Windows. ;)
However, I have a friend who has a particular penchant for breaking literally everything he touches (coincidentally, he works in QC now). Every time he speculates out loud about trying some random Linux distro, I politely change the subject!
- rini17 10y agoAnd your point is? Having average user, without any esoteric needs, jump over these hoops, is not "probably", but definitely unfeasible. Complaints, such as about Office, aren't and probably won't ever get outdated, all diehard Excel users I know rejected LibreOffice Calc due to incompatibilities and missing features. I know enough C to mess with the kernel, but even I must choose my battles - sometime around kernel 4.0 ACPI support for my otherwise perfectly functional and performant 8y old mainboard broke, freezing on boot. I had to disable ACPI, it means shutting it down manually by power switch. It reminds me every time not to lie to myself "I can't complain" :) Fortunately it's desktop, not laptop.
- Zancarius 10y ago>And your point is? Having average user, without any esoteric needs, jump over these hoops, is not "probably", but definitely unfeasible. Did you read my post or the OP? 1) The OP made claims about specific features not working in Linux. Generally, those complaints aren't true anymore and haven't been for a long time (audio, UTF-8, among other things). I can't remember the last time I had xorg crash or the last time I had to use startx and not my login manager. 2) I acknowledge on a number of points that it's most certainly not something the average user should use. I honestly have no idea how else to express this in a way that is suitable enough to satisfy everyone. I think you're misunderstanding the tone of my original post? >my otherwise perfectly functional and performant 8y old mainboard broke, freezing on boot. I had to disable ACPI, it means shutting it down manually by power switch. It reminds me every time not to lie to myself "I can't complain" :) If it's a hardware problem due to a fault, I'm not sure what you expect...
- rini17 10y agoI guess you have your anecdotal evidence that "Generally, those complaints aren't true anymore..", me and parent poster have ours and different. I can agree audio is now OK, but everything else is as sketchy as ever was. It was _the software ACPI support that broke,_ not hardware. With old kernels it all works. That at least I'd like to expect not broken.
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