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How do you deal with the piracy problem? What steps guarantee that I cannot share a copy of e.g. a movie I do not own via the service? Edit: google drive for e

by Asooka 10y ago

How do you deal with the piracy problem? What steps guarantee that I cannot share a copy of e.g. a movie I do not own via the service? Edit: google drive for example has a list of known hashes of pirate files and you can't share links to files matching those. I imagine something similar will be in effect here?

StavrosK 10y ago
Why do they have to deal with the piracy problem?
- Asooka 10y ago
  Because it's 2017 already. We, as programmers, should strive to make ethical software that doesn't infringe others' rights. Even Google's core motto is "don't be evil". The RIAA and MPAA are the supporting pillars of our culture - if they go down, our own culture dies. Making software that facilitates eroding the foundations on which our culture is built, seems pretty evil to me. Leveraging your position as a too-big-to-fail software company to steal billions of profits from poor artists seems pretty damn evil to me. I just want Google to be better - I want them making ethical software that respects people's rights, not havens for thieves.
  - StavrosK 10y ago
    Sorry, my question was more about the "they" than about the "why". Why does ZFS have an ethical responsibility to prevent you from saving a copyrighted file? Why does TCP have an ethical responsibility to prevent you from transmitting copyrighted data? Why do we have an ethical responsibility to build DRM into more things? If the MPAA and RIAA can't find a business model that works without restricting my freedom, maybe they should go down, and maybe your culture should die.
  - pjc50 10y ago
    Unfortunately, the cost of preventing piracy is building a global censor with authority to veto any use of the system. Which can also be seen as "evil".
enneff 10y ago
Upspin users maintain their own storage servers, or use storage servers maintained by someone else. The Upspin project itself doesn't have any authority or control over the type of content stored or shared with the system. > google drive for example has a list of known hashes of pirate files and you can't share links to files matching those It's actually impossible for us to know what people have stored. It's all encrypted. BTW, if you can find a way to "guarantee" that you cannot share a copy of a movie, you should talk to the movie industry and make a billion dollars. :-)

by Asooka 10y ago

StavrosK 10y ago

Why do they have to deal with the piracy problem?

Asooka 10y ago
Because it's 2017 already. We, as programmers, should strive to make ethical software that doesn't infringe others' rights. Even Google's core motto is "don't be evil". The RIAA and MPAA are the supporting pillars of our culture - if they go down, our own culture dies. Making software that facilitates eroding the foundations on which our culture is built, seems pretty evil to me. Leveraging your position as a too-big-to-fail software company to steal billions of profits from poor artists seems pretty damn evil to me. I just want Google to be better - I want them making ethical software that respects people's rights, not havens for thieves.
- StavrosK 10y ago
  Sorry, my question was more about the "they" than about the "why". Why does ZFS have an ethical responsibility to prevent you from saving a copyrighted file? Why does TCP have an ethical responsibility to prevent you from transmitting copyrighted data? Why do we have an ethical responsibility to build DRM into more things? If the MPAA and RIAA can't find a business model that works without restricting my freedom, maybe they should go down, and maybe your culture should die.
- pjc50 10y ago
  Unfortunately, the cost of preventing piracy is building a global censor with authority to veto any use of the system. Which can also be seen as "evil".

enneff 10y ago

Upspin users maintain their own storage servers, or use storage servers maintained by someone else. The Upspin project itself doesn't have any authority or control over the type of content stored or shared with the system. > google drive for example has a list of known hashes of pirate files and you can't share links to files matching those It's actually impossible for us to know what people have stored. It's all encrypted. BTW, if you can find a way to "guarantee" that you cannot share a copy of a movie, you should talk to the movie industry and make a billion dollars. :-)