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I doubt they've gotten worse. BUT, they shouldn't have been legal in the first place, especially for American citizens. The whole notion of "Constitution-free

I doubt they've gotten worse. BUT, they shouldn't have been legal in the first place, especially for American citizens. The whole notion of "Constitution-free zones" is ludicrous.

dawnerd 10y ago
And from what I understand it's a 100 mile zone around the borders? https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
- spacemanmatt 10y ago
  That looks to cover about 95% of the population.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    They can only do a border search of someone who has recently crossed the border. So it doesn't apply to all the people in the zone. It covers a bunch of Michigan because a boater does an entry process once they stop boating, not when they cross an imaginary line. There are rumbles of plans to move to a different, broader standard going forward.
    - __jal 10y ago
      That may be the rule for particularized searches (I don't know one way or the other), but "papers please" road checkpoints are common[1]. U.S. citizens are theoretically not required to show papers. In practice, theory and practice diverge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_interior_checkpoints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_in...
    - brewdad 10y ago
      Ah that makes sense. I had seen that map before and wondered how western Illinois could be included in the 100 mile border zone when Lake Michigan doesn't share a border with Canada. Lake Huron does and a boater could enter the US from there but dock in Chicago.