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Is there any evidence, other than anecdotal, that these types of searches have actually "gotten worse in quantity under the new president" as the EFF states? A

Is there any evidence, other than anecdotal, that these types of searches have actually "gotten worse in quantity under the new president" as the EFF states? And for Americans coming to Canada, be aware your phone and laptop are fair game at our border crossings too. No warrant required (yet). https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/public-safety-and-law-enforcement/your-privacy-at-airports-and-borders/#toc3 https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/public-safety-and-l...

mi100hael 10y ago
I doubt they've gotten worse. BUT, they shouldn't have been legal in the first place, especially for American citizens. The whole notion of "Constitution-free zones" is ludicrous.
- dawnerd 10y ago
  And from what I understand it's a 100 mile zone around the borders? https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
  - spacemanmatt 10y ago
    That looks to cover about 95% of the population.
    - maxerickson 10y ago
      They can only do a border search of someone who has recently crossed the border. So it doesn't apply to all the people in the zone. It covers a bunch of Michigan because a boater does an entry process once they stop boating, not when they cross an imaginary line. There are rumbles of plans to move to a different, broader standard going forward.
      - __jal 10y ago
        That may be the rule for particularized searches (I don't know one way or the other), but "papers please" road checkpoints are common[1]. U.S. citizens are theoretically not required to show papers. In practice, theory and practice diverge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_interior_checkpoints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_in...
      - brewdad 10y ago
        Ah that makes sense. I had seen that map before and wondered how western Illinois could be included in the 100 mile border zone when Lake Michigan doesn't share a border with Canada. Lake Huron does and a boater could enter the US from there but dock in Chicago.
CrankyBear 10y ago
Wyden asked CBP for that exact data in his letter.

mi100hael 10y ago

I doubt they've gotten worse. BUT, they shouldn't have been legal in the first place, especially for American citizens. The whole notion of "Constitution-free zones" is ludicrous.

dawnerd 10y ago
And from what I understand it's a 100 mile zone around the borders? https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
- spacemanmatt 10y ago
  That looks to cover about 95% of the population.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    They can only do a border search of someone who has recently crossed the border. So it doesn't apply to all the people in the zone. It covers a bunch of Michigan because a boater does an entry process once they stop boating, not when they cross an imaginary line. There are rumbles of plans to move to a different, broader standard going forward.
    - __jal 10y ago
      That may be the rule for particularized searches (I don't know one way or the other), but "papers please" road checkpoints are common[1]. U.S. citizens are theoretically not required to show papers. In practice, theory and practice diverge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_interior_checkpoints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol_in...
    - brewdad 10y ago
      Ah that makes sense. I had seen that map before and wondered how western Illinois could be included in the 100 mile border zone when Lake Michigan doesn't share a border with Canada. Lake Huron does and a boater could enter the US from there but dock in Chicago.

CrankyBear 10y ago

Wyden asked CBP for that exact data in his letter.