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Facebook should just say "Content owned by poster." and call it a day. Trying to push or censor/hide any content based on what's in it or who posted it is wrong

Facebook should just say "Content owned by poster." and call it a day. Trying to push or censor/hide any content based on what's in it or who posted it is wrong, IMO. Taking sides in a political issue has never been helpful to any company in the long-term.

M_Grey 10y ago
...Except that part of their potential business model has always been, "Content owned by us, now that you posted it."
- spiderfarmer 10y ago
  Exactly. And publishing any article that can be defined as hate speech is an offense in Germany and The Netherlands. Don't know about other countries.
  - M_Grey 10y ago
    You know, I didn't even consider that. It isn't a crime in the US, but I imagine that it is in the UK and many other countries.
    - idiot_stick 10y ago
      >It isn't a crime in the US, but I imagine that it is in the UK and many other countries. Yes, the US truly is one of the last bastions of free speech, believe it or not. Many other countries, including my own, can imprison you for things you say.
      - spiderfarmer 10y ago
        In my country they also look at the intent of the law. The intent of this law is to prevent you from rallying one group of people to feel superior over another group of people, over racial, sexual, religious and other issues. You can still say these things in private without repercussions.
yeukhon 10y ago
Any specific examples FB tries to censor and favor one political side over the other? I just know "Trending news" are updated by a human so there is certainly bias in that regard. EDIT: Why the heck the downvote?
- ColanR 10y ago
  People probably don't like hearing that there might be bias in the system... :/
- dingo_bat 10y ago
  This entire initiative to filter/incentivize certain content in response to the "fake news" issue itself means picking a side. In my view, "fake news" isn't a real thing. It's a propaganda term cooked up by left-leaning media organizations (some of which were directly colluding with the Democratic party) to discredit any news that does not fit their narrative. Facebook addressing this in any way means they have picked a side in this political issue. Now you can disagree with me on the reality of "fake news" but you cannot disagree that it is a political issue pushed mainly by left/liberal organizations and the dem party (later backfired because trump snatched it away from them), and facebook is legitimizing their argument by saying "yes, we realize that this is a thing and we will do something about it."
  - yeukhon 10y ago
    I think we need to clarify what fake news is. A fake news means the news is entirely made up and/or modified to address political propaganda. First real fake news are totally made up. Those are 100% definition of a fake news: President Trump just met yeukhon is a fake news because I didn't meet him. I made it up. Then comes the propaganda type of fake news. Prime example is editing audio record and remake it so certain words are omitted. That's also fake news. I don't think we need to drag leftist / rightist belief into this topic. Fake news are concrete and they exist long before 2016 election. But with people able to access the Internet, this platform allows fake content to spread like a disease. It used to be newspaper and TV are the source of truth for many, but now people rely on social media to get their news because there is no penalty for reporting on fake ad made up fakes.

M_Grey 10y ago

...Except that part of their potential business model has always been, "Content owned by us, now that you posted it."

spiderfarmer 10y ago
Exactly. And publishing any article that can be defined as hate speech is an offense in Germany and The Netherlands. Don't know about other countries.
- M_Grey 10y ago
  You know, I didn't even consider that. It isn't a crime in the US, but I imagine that it is in the UK and many other countries.
  - idiot_stick 10y ago
    >It isn't a crime in the US, but I imagine that it is in the UK and many other countries. Yes, the US truly is one of the last bastions of free speech, believe it or not. Many other countries, including my own, can imprison you for things you say.
    - spiderfarmer 10y ago
      In my country they also look at the intent of the law. The intent of this law is to prevent you from rallying one group of people to feel superior over another group of people, over racial, sexual, religious and other issues. You can still say these things in private without repercussions.

yeukhon 10y ago

Any specific examples FB tries to censor and favor one political side over the other? I just know "Trending news" are updated by a human so there is certainly bias in that regard. EDIT: Why the heck the downvote?

ColanR 10y ago
People probably don't like hearing that there might be bias in the system... :/
dingo_bat 10y ago
This entire initiative to filter/incentivize certain content in response to the "fake news" issue itself means picking a side. In my view, "fake news" isn't a real thing. It's a propaganda term cooked up by left-leaning media organizations (some of which were directly colluding with the Democratic party) to discredit any news that does not fit their narrative. Facebook addressing this in any way means they have picked a side in this political issue. Now you can disagree with me on the reality of "fake news" but you cannot disagree that it is a political issue pushed mainly by left/liberal organizations and the dem party (later backfired because trump snatched it away from them), and facebook is legitimizing their argument by saying "yes, we realize that this is a thing and we will do something about it."
- yeukhon 10y ago
  I think we need to clarify what fake news is. A fake news means the news is entirely made up and/or modified to address political propaganda. First real fake news are totally made up. Those are 100% definition of a fake news: President Trump just met yeukhon is a fake news because I didn't meet him. I made it up. Then comes the propaganda type of fake news. Prime example is editing audio record and remake it so certain words are omitted. That's also fake news. I don't think we need to drag leftist / rightist belief into this topic. Fake news are concrete and they exist long before 2016 election. But with people able to access the Internet, this platform allows fake content to spread like a disease. It used to be newspaper and TV are the source of truth for many, but now people rely on social media to get their news because there is no penalty for reporting on fake ad made up fakes.