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His approval rating ranges between 40-50 in your second link, and is at 42% on both Gallup and Pew Research (which he himself has used when it fit him). And re

by croon 10y ago

His approval rating ranges between 40-50 in your second link, and is at 42% on both Gallup and Pew Research (which he himself has used when it fit him). And regarding Florida: "Look around you... Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy... look at leereeves last night, would you believe it?" Am I referring to you as a serial killer?

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leereeves 10y ago
The only 40 in my second link is from 17 days before the article. Recent? I don't know where 41 came from exactly but I know that at that same time, Rasmussen was reporting 53% approval. How did Politifact choose? As for Florida: > They’re having problems like they never thought possible. He said problems, not attacks. And the Politifact article was written after (and even mentioned) Trump said he was referring to a Fox News report [1] about problems in Sweden, which isn't about terrorism. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSzjfAMk-RI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSzjfAMk-RI
- croon 10y ago
  > The only 40 in my second link is from 17 days before the article. Recent? Sure, and tomorrow it might be 20, or 60. You can only use previously existing data. > I don't know where 41 came from exactly but I know that at that same time, Rasmussen was reporting 53% approval. How did Politifact choose? I'm assuming the Gallup poll they link to stated 41 at the time of publication. That's the beauty of sourcing. You can always verify it. Step two is knowing if Gallup is trustworthy, that's where your RCP comes in, which puts it against other sources, most of which we recognize. Further steps would be sourcing their respective data, etc. > He said problems, not attacks. In the same breath as specifically cities with attacks in recent years. But even ignoring that, let's say he wasn't inferring attacks, then: * What problems? * What specifically about last night? "Problems" in the area he was talking about (unrest) usually means attack, so it's not an unreasonable assumption about what he meant. He of course later stated he was referring to a Fox News segment. How that makes it better is beyond me though, seeing as: * The segment was blatantly lying. [1] * He can get briefings from 11 intelligence agencies. * Sweden has crime statistics and is generally considered one of the least corrupt states in the west. [2] [1] http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/swedish-police-featured-in-fox-news-segment-filmmaker-is-a-madman/ http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/swedish-police-featured... [2] http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016 http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_percepti...
  - leereeves 10y ago
    > I'm assuming the Gallup poll they link to stated 41 at the time of publication. The Gallup poll they link to isn't even about his approval. http://www.gallup.com/poll/203834/americans-world-standing-worst-decade.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles http://www.gallup.com/poll/203834/americans-world-standing-w... That's the problem with assuming...
    - croon 10y ago
      Yeah, sorry, I clicked on it through your RCP link, thinking it was the same. My bad. The rest of my post though?
      - leereeves 10y ago
        Honestly, I have no idea what's going on in Sweden. I've heard so many different stories and it's hard to know who to trust when neither the media nor the government are trustworthy. I tend to trust more often when a source publishes something that runs counter to (my perception of) its bias. Such as this article from the WaPo: > Yet he also acknowledged that the country is reaching the limits of what it can handle, and may have no choice but to tighten its policies in the face of an influx this year that is expected to bring more than 150,000 asylum seekers to a country with a population of less than 10 million. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/behind-swedens-warm-welcome-for-refugees-a-backlash-is-brewing/2015/10/17/b5f4110c-661d-11e5-bdb6-6861f4521205_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/behind-swedens-w...
        croon 10y ago
        It's not hard if you just skip the middle man and look at the data you want to observe. Yes, Sweden takes in (per capita) among the most refugees. [1] This has been the case when I've looked at data for at least 4-5 years. Yet violent crimes has gone down. [2] > Honestly, I have no idea what's going on in Sweden. I've heard so many different stories and it's hard to know who to trust when neither the media nor the government are trustworthy. What specifically is it that you don't trust or wish you had more information about? I see nothing wrong in the article you link. It's interviewing a representative of the rise of "Sweden Democrats", which is a nationalistic party on the rise that has gotten ~20% of the electorate, in a multi party country, which is very significant. It's however not relevant to any crime statistics or unrest, but merely _perceived_ unrest, much like the alt-right movement, Brexit, and similar. A lot of Swedish statistics are mandatorily published in English, so it's not terribly difficult to get it if you try. [1] http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/09/daily-chart http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/09/daily-c... [2] https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics.html https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statist...

by croon 10y ago

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leereeves 10y ago

The only 40 in my second link is from 17 days before the article. Recent? I don't know where 41 came from exactly but I know that at that same time, Rasmussen was reporting 53% approval. How did Politifact choose? As for Florida: > They’re having problems like they never thought possible. He said problems, not attacks. And the Politifact article was written after (and even mentioned) Trump said he was referring to a Fox News report [1] about problems in Sweden, which isn't about terrorism. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSzjfAMk-RI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSzjfAMk-RI

croon 10y ago
> The only 40 in my second link is from 17 days before the article. Recent? Sure, and tomorrow it might be 20, or 60. You can only use previously existing data. > I don't know where 41 came from exactly but I know that at that same time, Rasmussen was reporting 53% approval. How did Politifact choose? I'm assuming the Gallup poll they link to stated 41 at the time of publication. That's the beauty of sourcing. You can always verify it. Step two is knowing if Gallup is trustworthy, that's where your RCP comes in, which puts it against other sources, most of which we recognize. Further steps would be sourcing their respective data, etc. > He said problems, not attacks. In the same breath as specifically cities with attacks in recent years. But even ignoring that, let's say he wasn't inferring attacks, then: * What problems? * What specifically about last night? "Problems" in the area he was talking about (unrest) usually means attack, so it's not an unreasonable assumption about what he meant. He of course later stated he was referring to a Fox News segment. How that makes it better is beyond me though, seeing as: * The segment was blatantly lying. [1] * He can get briefings from 11 intelligence agencies. * Sweden has crime statistics and is generally considered one of the least corrupt states in the west. [2] [1] http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/swedish-police-featured-in-fox-news-segment-filmmaker-is-a-madman/ http://www.dn.se/kultur-noje/nyheter/swedish-police-featured... [2] http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_perceptions_index_2016 http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/corruption_percepti...
- leereeves 10y ago
  > I'm assuming the Gallup poll they link to stated 41 at the time of publication. The Gallup poll they link to isn't even about his approval. http://www.gallup.com/poll/203834/americans-world-standing-worst-decade.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles http://www.gallup.com/poll/203834/americans-world-standing-w... That's the problem with assuming...
  - croon 10y ago
    Yeah, sorry, I clicked on it through your RCP link, thinking it was the same. My bad. The rest of my post though?
    - leereeves 10y ago
      Honestly, I have no idea what's going on in Sweden. I've heard so many different stories and it's hard to know who to trust when neither the media nor the government are trustworthy. I tend to trust more often when a source publishes something that runs counter to (my perception of) its bias. Such as this article from the WaPo: > Yet he also acknowledged that the country is reaching the limits of what it can handle, and may have no choice but to tighten its policies in the face of an influx this year that is expected to bring more than 150,000 asylum seekers to a country with a population of less than 10 million. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/behind-swedens-warm-welcome-for-refugees-a-backlash-is-brewing/2015/10/17/b5f4110c-661d-11e5-bdb6-6861f4521205_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/behind-swedens-w...
      - croon 10y ago
        It's not hard if you just skip the middle man and look at the data you want to observe. Yes, Sweden takes in (per capita) among the most refugees. [1] This has been the case when I've looked at data for at least 4-5 years. Yet violent crimes has gone down. [2] > Honestly, I have no idea what's going on in Sweden. I've heard so many different stories and it's hard to know who to trust when neither the media nor the government are trustworthy. What specifically is it that you don't trust or wish you had more information about? I see nothing wrong in the article you link. It's interviewing a representative of the rise of "Sweden Democrats", which is a nationalistic party on the rise that has gotten ~20% of the electorate, in a multi party country, which is very significant. It's however not relevant to any crime statistics or unrest, but merely _perceived_ unrest, much like the alt-right movement, Brexit, and similar. A lot of Swedish statistics are mandatorily published in English, so it's not terribly difficult to get it if you try. [1] http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/09/daily-chart http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2015/09/daily-c... [2] https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statistics.html https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/crime-and-statist...