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"Fake news" (along with Russia-panic) started its life as part of a propaganda offensive by the DNC and DNC affiliated media (CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washin

"Fake news" (along with Russia-panic) started its life as part of a propaganda offensive by the DNC and DNC affiliated media (CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, etc.) to justify why Hillary lost that didn't involve blaming her. I think it was mainly targeted at Democrats/Hillary supporters rather than Trump supporters (they obviously didn't need to hear an excuse for why she lost).

MK999 10y ago
Also the term 'filter-bubble' which acts as if conservatives are simply not exposed to liberal viewpoints.
scholia 10y ago
Fake news started with the Tea Party, "shock jocks" and other right-wing conservative attempts to discredit reality-based news media. Blaming the DNC is a good example of fake news lies in action.
- crdoconnor 10y ago
  Fake news started hundreds if not thousands of years ago. The recent hysteria about fake news started roughly 48 hours after the Presidential election results.
  - croon 10y ago
    Fake news was abundant enough that it became a meme in 2005 as "truthiness". That you took offense to it only after November 10, 2016 is inconsequential.
    - crdoconnor 10y ago
      The media's sudden obsession starting Nov 10th is graphed here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news Spikes like that don't happen by accident.
      - scholia 10y ago
        No, they don't. In this case, on your link, the top "related topic" is Donald Trump and the top three "related queries" are "trump", "trump fake news" and "trump news". This is what happens when you get a pathological liar running for president. Trump "defended" his lies with more lies, such as calling honest news sources "fake news".
      - Feuilles_Mortes 10y ago
        You're looking at a specific term that has caught on, of course there is a spike. The ancestral comments are talking about the idea of disinformation, which I'm guessing has been around as long as humans started talking to each other (hell maybe even before that).
NotSammyHagar 10y ago
No, fake news started long ago. You are very confused if you think these mainstream media companies are lieing to avoid talking about why hillary lost. They give lots of reasons that appear to be valid, like that she didn't pay enough attention to those important three states, and that she had no widely publicized plan to deal with the people that lots their local factories and jobs. I think this latter case was really important, and HRC really missed out on this area. A lot of trump supporters seem to believe that billionaire and job exporter trump will somehow get their factory jobs back to their town. This idea has been widely discussed. Sure, some people also wrote about how trump won because of fake news (i.e. blog posts about things that aren't true, like the comet pizza thing), and that must have contributed, but that is just one of many things.
- crdoconnor 10y ago
  >No, fake news started long ago. Like I said two comments down. >You are very confused I don't think so.
  - unprepare 10y ago
    >"Fake news" (along with Russia-panic) started ... to justify why Hillary lost that didn't involve blaming her. >fake news started long ago you can only pick one.
    - crdoconnor 10y ago
      That is why I used "quotation marks" to indicate that I was referring to the moral panic about fake news that was suddenly plastered over the Dem-linked media (NYTimes, Washpost, CNN, CNBC, etc.) starting November 10th which led to the search spike which can be very clearly seen here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news Edit: oh look you downvoted the comment below after I pointed it out. how cute.
      - unprepare 10y ago

MK999 10y ago

Also the term 'filter-bubble' which acts as if conservatives are simply not exposed to liberal viewpoints.

scholia 10y ago

Fake news started with the Tea Party, "shock jocks" and other right-wing conservative attempts to discredit reality-based news media. Blaming the DNC is a good example of fake news lies in action.

crdoconnor 10y ago
Fake news started hundreds if not thousands of years ago. The recent hysteria about fake news started roughly 48 hours after the Presidential election results.
- croon 10y ago
  Fake news was abundant enough that it became a meme in 2005 as "truthiness". That you took offense to it only after November 10, 2016 is inconsequential.
  - crdoconnor 10y ago
    The media's sudden obsession starting Nov 10th is graphed here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news Spikes like that don't happen by accident.
    - scholia 10y ago
      No, they don't. In this case, on your link, the top "related topic" is Donald Trump and the top three "related queries" are "trump", "trump fake news" and "trump news". This is what happens when you get a pathological liar running for president. Trump "defended" his lies with more lies, such as calling honest news sources "fake news".
    - Feuilles_Mortes 10y ago
      You're looking at a specific term that has caught on, of course there is a spike. The ancestral comments are talking about the idea of disinformation, which I'm guessing has been around as long as humans started talking to each other (hell maybe even before that).

NotSammyHagar 10y ago

No, fake news started long ago. You are very confused if you think these mainstream media companies are lieing to avoid talking about why hillary lost. They give lots of reasons that appear to be valid, like that she didn't pay enough attention to those important three states, and that she had no widely publicized plan to deal with the people that lots their local factories and jobs. I think this latter case was really important, and HRC really missed out on this area. A lot of trump supporters seem to believe that billionaire and job exporter trump will somehow get their factory jobs back to their town. This idea has been widely discussed. Sure, some people also wrote about how trump won because of fake news (i.e. blog posts about things that aren't true, like the comet pizza thing), and that must have contributed, but that is just one of many things.

crdoconnor 10y ago
>No, fake news started long ago. Like I said two comments down. >You are very confused I don't think so.
- unprepare 10y ago
  >"Fake news" (along with Russia-panic) started ... to justify why Hillary lost that didn't involve blaming her. >fake news started long ago you can only pick one.
  - crdoconnor 10y ago
    That is why I used "quotation marks" to indicate that I was referring to the moral panic about fake news that was suddenly plastered over the Dem-linked media (NYTimes, Washpost, CNN, CNBC, etc.) starting November 10th which led to the search spike which can be very clearly seen here: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=fake%20news Edit: oh look you downvoted the comment below after I pointed it out. how cute.
    - unprepare 10y ago