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We live in a world where obama can get the number of US states wrong and get a pass, and trump mentioning a segment he saw last night on FOX is the end of the w

We live in a world where obama can get the number of US states wrong and get a pass, and trump mentioning a segment he saw last night on FOX is the end of the world. Interestingly enough the media parroted the "debunked" claim when the article was using statistics from Sweden's own government. Rape is up 70% since 2005. Grenade attacks are also a thing in Sweden now, which is absolutely unacceptable.

erelde 10y ago
And you are not believing stats released by one of the least corrupt democracy of the West. There was one grenade launched in Sweden in August last year. There's at least 1 killed by a semi auto in the US per day. Sweden has near zero homicide rate. edit: it seems there was more than 'one' explosions in Sweden, but looking at the wikipedia article history linked below doesn't fill me with confidence considering how the language used has changed between august when the article was made and now. Also note how the wikipedia editors write about organized crime using old grenades from WWII and not migrants bombing Swedish people.
- mizzack 10y ago
  One? Huh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Swe...
  - knowaveragejoe 10y ago
    Wow, they're almost up to a few days worth of gun crime in the US there.
    - rfrank 10y ago
      Wow, that dramatic increase in frequency just magically happened huh?
      - knowaveragejoe 10y ago
        Sounds like all your prejudices are confirmed.
        rfrank 10y ago
        That's certainly one way to interpret it. Not a very good one, but do you.
scholia 10y ago
Unlike Obama, Trump is a pathological liar. He peaked at 40 lies in a single day, his diatribe against mainstream media included 17 lies, and he's managed at least 80 lies as so called president. As a matter of fact, Trump built his political career on lying about Obama's place of birth. See: https://www.thestar.com/news/donald-trump-fact-check.html https://www.thestar.com/news/donald-trump-fact-check.html https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unauthorized-database-of-false-things.html https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/don... http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-false-statements-20160925-snap-story.html http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-false-statem... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-o... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/06/donald-trumps-ridiculous-claim-that-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/... Trump Lies about His Birther Past: A Closer Look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sBhANSz--k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sBhANSz--k "Trump built his career on a racist lie because he's a racist and a liar" -- Seth Meyers
- scholia 10y ago
  New item from the Washington Post's fact checkers: In the 33 days so far, we’ve counted 132 false or misleading claims https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claim...
eh78ssxv2f 10y ago
About Obama getting the states wrong, did you mean this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp?
gizmo385 10y ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the increase in rape statistics in Sweden largely attributable to broadening of the government's definition of what it considers rape?
- croon 10y ago
  Yes, legal reform in 2005 and 2013 can be clearly linked to those spikes.
unprepare 10y ago
how does Trump react when hes called out on a lie, and how does Obama react when hes called out? > I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, uh …” >“I don’t know,” Trump repeated. “I was given that information.”

erelde 10y ago

And you are not believing stats released by one of the least corrupt democracy of the West. There was one grenade launched in Sweden in August last year. There's at least 1 killed by a semi auto in the US per day. Sweden has near zero homicide rate. edit: it seems there was more than 'one' explosions in Sweden, but looking at the wikipedia article history linked below doesn't fill me with confidence considering how the language used has changed between august when the article was made and now. Also note how the wikipedia editors write about organized crime using old grenades from WWII and not migrants bombing Swedish people.

mizzack 10y ago
One? Huh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Swe...
- knowaveragejoe 10y ago
  Wow, they're almost up to a few days worth of gun crime in the US there.
  - rfrank 10y ago
    Wow, that dramatic increase in frequency just magically happened huh?
    - knowaveragejoe 10y ago
      Sounds like all your prejudices are confirmed.
      - rfrank 10y ago
        That's certainly one way to interpret it. Not a very good one, but do you.

scholia 10y ago

Unlike Obama, Trump is a pathological liar. He peaked at 40 lies in a single day, his diatribe against mainstream media included 17 lies, and he's managed at least 80 lies as so called president. As a matter of fact, Trump built his political career on lying about Obama's place of birth. See: https://www.thestar.com/news/donald-trump-fact-check.html https://www.thestar.com/news/donald-trump-fact-check.html https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unauthorized-database-of-false-things.html https://www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/don... http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-false-statements-20160925-snap-story.html http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-false-statem... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all... http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-o... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/06/donald-trumps-ridiculous-claim-that-hillary-clinton-started-the-birther-movement/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/05/... Trump Lies about His Birther Past: A Closer Look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sBhANSz--k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sBhANSz--k "Trump built his career on a racist lie because he's a racist and a liar" -- Seth Meyers

scholia 10y ago
New item from the Washington Post's fact checkers: In the 33 days so far, we’ve counted 132 false or misleading claims https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claim...

eh78ssxv2f 10y ago

About Obama getting the states wrong, did you mean this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp?

gizmo385 10y ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the increase in rape statistics in Sweden largely attributable to broadening of the government's definition of what it considers rape?

croon 10y ago
Yes, legal reform in 2005 and 2013 can be clearly linked to those spikes.

unprepare 10y ago

how does Trump react when hes called out on a lie, and how does Obama react when hes called out? > I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, uh …” >“I don’t know,” Trump repeated. “I was given that information.”