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You'll likely be downvoted just for mentioning the downvotes. Also, the tone comes across as uncivil, which will likely attract downvotes as well. If you're con

by grzm 10y ago

You'll likely be downvoted just for mentioning the downvotes. Also, the tone comes across as uncivil, which will likely attract downvotes as well. If you're concerned about this, I suggest removing the last sentence and the remarks about downvotes, and provide some of the facts that support your initial statement. It makes for a much more substantive and strong comment.

samstave 10y ago
Sure, downvote me on tone, not on fact. He is scum. anyone defending that guy.... I dont care about stupid points on HN... -- Eric Holder and his ilk are criminals. If you disagree, prove me wrong. They are all murderers.
- grzm 10y ago
  If you read me as disagreeing with you or defending Holder, you're reading me wrong. Why did you post your comment on HN? I believe it was that you believe Eric Holder is a criminal and want to let other people know. Who is your audience? If it's people who already agree with you, you haven't told them anything they don't already know. If you're trying to reach people who aren't aware, you've given them nothing other than your angry words to make a decision. They're likely not inclined to look up any additional information based on your comment: there's plenty of angry posters on all variety of issues, and a lot learn to discount them given no additional evidence. If you're trying to reach people who disagree with you, you've already picked a potentially adversarial audience already inclined to dismiss you. As for why I posted my comment, is that I really want to see substantive, constructive discussions, and often see people include in their comments references to potentially receiving downvotes, and perceive them as due to the content, rather than the the presentation. On contentious issues in particular, presentation is so important to productive discussion.

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You'll likely be downvoted just for mentioning the downvotes. Also, the tone comes across as uncivil, which will likely attract downvotes as well. If you're con

by grzm 10y ago

samstave 10y ago
Sure, downvote me on tone, not on fact. He is scum. anyone defending that guy.... I dont care about stupid points on HN... -- Eric Holder and his ilk are criminals. If you disagree, prove me wrong. They are all murderers.
- grzm 10y ago
  If you read me as disagreeing with you or defending Holder, you're reading me wrong. Why did you post your comment on HN? I believe it was that you believe Eric Holder is a criminal and want to let other people know. Who is your audience? If it's people who already agree with you, you haven't told them anything they don't already know. If you're trying to reach people who aren't aware, you've given them nothing other than your angry words to make a decision. They're likely not inclined to look up any additional information based on your comment: there's plenty of angry posters on all variety of issues, and a lot learn to discount them given no additional evidence. If you're trying to reach people who disagree with you, you've already picked a potentially adversarial audience already inclined to dismiss you. As for why I posted my comment, is that I really want to see substantive, constructive discussions, and often see people include in their comments references to potentially receiving downvotes, and perceive them as due to the content, rather than the the presentation. On contentious issues in particular, presentation is so important to productive discussion.