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Fowler has submitted exactly zero proof that any of this even actually happened.

uyeu998 10y ago
This is true. How do you know she is not lying. Maybe she did the blog for publicity and now it's taken over by national news. I hope she is wrong and gets crucified.
dandelany 10y ago
Obviously. She's presented her personal story in the form of a blog post - we're all well aware of that. And it seems you're perfectly willing to accept that story up to the point that it matches your preferred narrative (ie. "bad shit happened, couple of morons"), but anything more and it's "where's the proof?!" Why not just call her a liar and show your real true colors?
- Rapzid 10y ago
  It's not good to conflate healthy skepticism with the belief that one is an outright liar. We know so much about the fallibility of memory and how bias affects recounts of events these days.
  - wpietri 10y ago
    Are you seriously claiming that ultrahate is just demonstrating healthy skepticism?
    - Rapzid 10y ago
      I made no such claims, however dandelany was strongly suggesting the contrary. > show your true colors Is very close to a personal attack. This doesn't need to turn into the CCN or Fox news comment section...
      - wpietri 10y ago
        If somebody with "hate" in their name responds to credible accusations of sexual malfeasance with false interjections of "but there's no proof", then we're already approaching Fox-News-comments levels of quality. If you aren't claiming that ultrahate is displaying healthy skepticism, then what do you think he's doing? And why is that valuable enough that you took time to defend it?
lr4444lr 10y ago
Perhaps you're technically right, but she claims to have it documented, and has already shared it as per her tale in her HR efforts. The NYTimes would not likely publish nor Kalanick contritely move to investigate so thoroughly if it were so easy to repudiate her claims as hearsay. We'll know in short order as the company rushes to save face.

This is true. How do you know she is not lying. Maybe she did the blog for publicity and now it's taken over by national news. I hope she is wrong and gets crucified.

dandelany 10y ago

Obviously. She's presented her personal story in the form of a blog post - we're all well aware of that. And it seems you're perfectly willing to accept that story up to the point that it matches your preferred narrative (ie. "bad shit happened, couple of morons"), but anything more and it's "where's the proof?!" Why not just call her a liar and show your real true colors?

Rapzid 10y ago
It's not good to conflate healthy skepticism with the belief that one is an outright liar. We know so much about the fallibility of memory and how bias affects recounts of events these days.
- wpietri 10y ago
  Are you seriously claiming that ultrahate is just demonstrating healthy skepticism?
  - Rapzid 10y ago
    I made no such claims, however dandelany was strongly suggesting the contrary. > show your true colors Is very close to a personal attack. This doesn't need to turn into the CCN or Fox news comment section...
    - wpietri 10y ago
      If somebody with "hate" in their name responds to credible accusations of sexual malfeasance with false interjections of "but there's no proof", then we're already approaching Fox-News-comments levels of quality. If you aren't claiming that ultrahate is displaying healthy skepticism, then what do you think he's doing? And why is that valuable enough that you took time to defend it?

lr4444lr 10y ago

Perhaps you're technically right, but she claims to have it documented, and has already shared it as per her tale in her HR efforts. The NYTimes would not likely publish nor Kalanick contritely move to investigate so thoroughly if it were so easy to repudiate her claims as hearsay. We'll know in short order as the company rushes to save face.