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What does this mean for an official Fdroid option?

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jethro_tell 10y ago
If I really wanted a phone that was clean, It would probably not be attached to a google account. This is where signal would really shine anyway.
Cyphase 10y ago
Requiring Google Play Services is not the main reason Signal hasn't been on F-Droid; you can read Moxie's thoughts on the subject in these comments (and in other places): https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/127#issuecomment-13335689 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/127#... https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/281#issuecomment-21762482 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/281#...
- yagni3 10y ago
  Some of these are solved by setting up their own repo (though you can't force users to update in F-droid). Some of the tracking things can be handled, I believe, if they were built out and opt-in. https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Setup_an_FDroid_App_Repo https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Setup_an_FDroid_App_Repo
- boondaburrah 10y ago
  While google play certainly helps with these issues, I currently have both whatsapp and firefox installed from their respective websites by downloading the APK directly. WhatsApp is happy to notify me when there's an update, and it's one click to download and install. Firefox downloads the update automatically, and again, it's one tap to start the install. Mozilla crash reporter runs when it needs to, etc. So while google play gives you these features "for free," it's not impossible at all to have them without. Only unattended upgrades requires special access, and to be honest personally I never want things modifying what's installed without asking.
  - zer0t3ch 10y ago
    The thing is, you know what you're doing. He makes a fair point in that his target audience is people who don't know what they're doing, which is inevitably going to lead to people downloading "brand new updates" that are full of malware, or worse, backdoored.
- leni536 10y ago
  Moxie choose the wrong license for signal, it doesn't reflect his intent.

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If I really wanted a phone that was clean, It would probably not be attached to a google account. This is where signal would really shine anyway.

Cyphase 10y ago

Requiring Google Play Services is not the main reason Signal hasn't been on F-Droid; you can read Moxie's thoughts on the subject in these comments (and in other places): https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/127#issuecomment-13335689 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/127#... https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/281#issuecomment-21762482 https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Android/issues/281#...

yagni3 10y ago
Some of these are solved by setting up their own repo (though you can't force users to update in F-droid). Some of the tracking things can be handled, I believe, if they were built out and opt-in. https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Setup_an_FDroid_App_Repo https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Setup_an_FDroid_App_Repo
boondaburrah 10y ago
While google play certainly helps with these issues, I currently have both whatsapp and firefox installed from their respective websites by downloading the APK directly. WhatsApp is happy to notify me when there's an update, and it's one click to download and install. Firefox downloads the update automatically, and again, it's one tap to start the install. Mozilla crash reporter runs when it needs to, etc. So while google play gives you these features "for free," it's not impossible at all to have them without. Only unattended upgrades requires special access, and to be honest personally I never want things modifying what's installed without asking.
- zer0t3ch 10y ago
  The thing is, you know what you're doing. He makes a fair point in that his target audience is people who don't know what they're doing, which is inevitably going to lead to people downloading "brand new updates" that are full of malware, or worse, backdoored.
leni536 10y ago
Moxie choose the wrong license for signal, it doesn't reflect his intent.