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They become micromanagers not leaders. Its a political problem. When voting is rigged it happens that those who get benefits vote for those incompetent. And th

by id122015 10y ago

They become micromanagers not leaders. Its a political problem. When voting is rigged it happens that those who get benefits vote for those incompetent. And those incompetent promise free benefits to obtain votes. Vicious circle.

mulmen 10y ago
I'm not sure I agree with this. Are you saying all voting is rigged? Also not all incompetent managers are micro-managers, I have had problems with managers that are uninvolved as well. It may be possible for a candidate to gain votes by promising free benefits (or even non-free benefits) to their constituents and then actually grant those benefits. I would not describe that situation as a problem because that's exactly how representative democracy is supposed to work. I don't see how rigged voting implies incompetence or that incompetence implies rigged voting. Also, I nave never seen a business setting that had elections, rigged or not. In the cases where I have been faced with incompetent managers their constituents (employees/reports) would have voted them out at the nearest opportunity. Is this the rigged system to which you refer?
- id122015 10y ago
  There are a lot of facts that need to be explained but I'll try to tell you the ideas in a few paragraphs. I cant summarise a whole stack of books in such a short time. Representative Democracy: Do you understand by that a contract between people where those who never paid a cent in tax but receive free benefits have the right to vote ? Maybe that will answer the question about how incompetent managers raise to the top. Business Have you not heard about how the leader of Mozilla? or some other company has been voted out because he expressed his ideas about sexuality ? Or are you not familiar with how a company traded by shares is GOVERNED by a board of directors ? Cisco founder has been fired, thats an example of how elections work in a business. Maybe you should watch The Office movies to understand how and why incompetent people are given manager positions. Its a comedy and the main actor plays very well the incompetent manager. There are also some serials where voting is involved but the manager does all he can do go his own way.
  - mulmen 10y ago
    Can you provide references to the facts in those books? Even the titles would be appreciated. Taxation is not required for representation but taxation does require representation. This fundamental concept of American democracy is applicable in only one direction. I don't see how you established the connection between managers and politicians. Corporate governance and national governance are not equivalent. If an employee or founder is fired that is not the same as failing to be (re)elected. Founders are not initially selected by a democratic system. I do not accept works of entertainment fiction as evidence of any real world phenomenon.

mulmen 10y ago

I'm not sure I agree with this. Are you saying all voting is rigged? Also not all incompetent managers are micro-managers, I have had problems with managers that are uninvolved as well. It may be possible for a candidate to gain votes by promising free benefits (or even non-free benefits) to their constituents and then actually grant those benefits. I would not describe that situation as a problem because that's exactly how representative democracy is supposed to work. I don't see how rigged voting implies incompetence or that incompetence implies rigged voting. Also, I nave never seen a business setting that had elections, rigged or not. In the cases where I have been faced with incompetent managers their constituents (employees/reports) would have voted them out at the nearest opportunity. Is this the rigged system to which you refer?

id122015 10y ago
There are a lot of facts that need to be explained but I'll try to tell you the ideas in a few paragraphs. I cant summarise a whole stack of books in such a short time. Representative Democracy: Do you understand by that a contract between people where those who never paid a cent in tax but receive free benefits have the right to vote ? Maybe that will answer the question about how incompetent managers raise to the top. Business Have you not heard about how the leader of Mozilla? or some other company has been voted out because he expressed his ideas about sexuality ? Or are you not familiar with how a company traded by shares is GOVERNED by a board of directors ? Cisco founder has been fired, thats an example of how elections work in a business. Maybe you should watch The Office movies to understand how and why incompetent people are given manager positions. Its a comedy and the main actor plays very well the incompetent manager. There are also some serials where voting is involved but the manager does all he can do go his own way.
- mulmen 10y ago
  Can you provide references to the facts in those books? Even the titles would be appreciated. Taxation is not required for representation but taxation does require representation. This fundamental concept of American democracy is applicable in only one direction. I don't see how you established the connection between managers and politicians. Corporate governance and national governance are not equivalent. If an employee or founder is fired that is not the same as failing to be (re)elected. Founders are not initially selected by a democratic system. I do not accept works of entertainment fiction as evidence of any real world phenomenon.