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Slack. - It's slow on every platform I use (iOS, macOS). - I often don't get notifications at all, on either platform. - The Mac client crashes too often. -

Slack. - It's slow on every platform I use (iOS, macOS). - I often don't get notifications at all, on either platform. - The Mac client crashes too often. - The Mac client uses more resources than it should. - Threads are useless. - Settings are split into too many different views. - I dislike the design. It's too spaced out (even with the "compact" setting). There's no dark mode. I don't like the icon. Everything is too cutesy. - I hate the emoji. I don't want more emoji in my life. Most of all, I hate the hivemind that says it's the only viable chat system, so much so that even open source projects use it over IRC. Hipchat wasn't too much better, but I've not gotten the chance to use it in the past few years because everyone defaults to Slack. I'd love to try Facebook's new work thing, but there's the same problem.

mjolk 10y ago
> so much so that even open source projects use it over IRC. Remove the small amount of technical know how to "properly" use IRC and make chats (and permissions) persistent, and I imagine you'd end up with something that looks eerily like Slack. That said, I think the Slack load-time in-browser is silly-long and I get spammed with notifications. As for threads, Zulip (https://github.com/zulip/zulip https://github.com/zulip/zulip) does things "right" and I wish Slack would rip off their approach (central topic is the "room" and threads are independent, visually-separate-when-highlighted chats within a central topic).
- jakebasile 10y ago
  I've used IRCCloud before, and I thought it worked well. They have an "internal" type plan as well with a private server, but as above I can't get anyone to try it because Slack owns the mindshare.
falcolas 10y ago
I'm happy (unhappy?) to inform you that hipchat is no better. In many ways, it's worse. - Can't edit previous message aside from an exceptionally limited s/// for your very last message - Can't mix text formatting; you're either quoting, coding, or regular typing - Animated GIFs for Avatars. I mean, seriously? - Many of the same problems from Slack's use of Electron (and similar)
- jakebasile 10y ago
  Animated avatars? Why do this?
  - falcolas 10y ago
    Kinda what I wanted to know too. At least they (eventually) offered a way to turn them off without turning off all custom avatars.
vmasto 10y ago
I have the exact opposite opinion on Slack. Their new electron app is better in perf and memory and generally the experience is the best I've had (and I've used professionally pretty much every chat app there is). Compared to alternatives like HipChat or Skype it's eons ahead. But threads are useless indeed, I'll give you that.
cwisecarver 10y ago
Try Flowdock for a week. Then try slack again.
altern8tif 10y ago
I really can't understand why Slack doesn't just go with a native app (to address performance issues on Electron). They're a big enough company to work on developing platform-specific apps which would totally improve the user experience (from a performance standpoint at least).
- aries1980 10y ago
  OS market is quite fragmented. Even larger comm companies (e.g. Webex) does not support Linux.

mjolk 10y ago

> so much so that even open source projects use it over IRC. Remove the small amount of technical know how to "properly" use IRC and make chats (and permissions) persistent, and I imagine you'd end up with something that looks eerily like Slack. That said, I think the Slack load-time in-browser is silly-long and I get spammed with notifications. As for threads, Zulip (https://github.com/zulip/zulip https://github.com/zulip/zulip) does things "right" and I wish Slack would rip off their approach (central topic is the "room" and threads are independent, visually-separate-when-highlighted chats within a central topic).

jakebasile 10y ago
I've used IRCCloud before, and I thought it worked well. They have an "internal" type plan as well with a private server, but as above I can't get anyone to try it because Slack owns the mindshare.

falcolas 10y ago

I'm happy (unhappy?) to inform you that hipchat is no better. In many ways, it's worse. - Can't edit previous message aside from an exceptionally limited s/// for your very last message - Can't mix text formatting; you're either quoting, coding, or regular typing - Animated GIFs for Avatars. I mean, seriously? - Many of the same problems from Slack's use of Electron (and similar)

jakebasile 10y ago
Animated avatars? Why do this?
- falcolas 10y ago
  Kinda what I wanted to know too. At least they (eventually) offered a way to turn them off without turning off all custom avatars.

vmasto 10y ago

I have the exact opposite opinion on Slack. Their new electron app is better in perf and memory and generally the experience is the best I've had (and I've used professionally pretty much every chat app there is). Compared to alternatives like HipChat or Skype it's eons ahead. But threads are useless indeed, I'll give you that.

cwisecarver 10y ago

Try Flowdock for a week. Then try slack again.

altern8tif 10y ago

I really can't understand why Slack doesn't just go with a native app (to address performance issues on Electron). They're a big enough company to work on developing platform-specific apps which would totally improve the user experience (from a performance standpoint at least).

aries1980 10y ago
OS market is quite fragmented. Even larger comm companies (e.g. Webex) does not support Linux.