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Am I the only one to think he had it coming? I mean, the guy publicly boasts to have made hundreds of millions of dollars ripping off the entertainment industr

by d--b 10y ago

Am I the only one to think he had it coming? I mean, the guy publicly boasts to have made hundreds of millions of dollars ripping off the entertainment industry. The US wouldn't be so aggressive if the guy hadn't been in hiding and taunting them for years. As far as I know, Sean Parker didn't go to jail over Napster...

tptacek 10y ago
No, you are not. But Schmitz's outcome is not going to be the same as Sean Parker's.
- d--b 10y ago
  Sure, but that's only because he clearly violated a lot of laws and fled instead of facing trial. I am surprised that most people here seem offended by NZ's decision. The guy's clearly a thief, he got a lot of money from people who wanted to watch TV shows, while he didn't make those shows. If someone stole my stuff, fled to NZ and bragged about it online, I'd be pretty pissed too, and surely I'd like the guy to be extradited.
  - syshum 10y ago
    >>and fled instead of facing trial. Where did he flee to? Megaupload was started when he lived in NZ, was shutdown when he lived in NZ, and as far as I am aware he still lives in NZ. So where you do you that he fled somewhere? >I am surprised that most people here seem offended by NZ's decision. That is because clearly you do not value due process >The guy's clearly a thief That is not clear to me, of course I also reject the very idea of "Intellectual privilege" and do not believe a download is the equivalent of theft. Which by the way is the factual legal position as well, because when you infringe on copyright, you do not "steal" you infringe. >If someone stole my stuff, What did he steal, I have seen no complaints, or charges in regards to theft. Copyright infringement sure. But that is not theft >fled to NZ he did not flee to NZ,
    - undefined0 10y ago
      Just a slight correction, he lived in Hong Kong when he founded Megaupload and moved to New Zealand later on. Pure speculation but I imagine he moved to Hong Kong to avoid German law after his past conviction there for insider trading.
  - philliphaydon 10y ago
    The NZ government is in bed with America. After being caught red handed they attempted to change the law to justify what they did. The entire raid on him was illegal. Regardless of what he did he is an NZ Pernement Resident. He was meant to be protected by NZ laws and the government ignored those laws to bend over and take it from America.

by d--b 10y ago

tptacek 10y ago

No, you are not. But Schmitz's outcome is not going to be the same as Sean Parker's.

d--b 10y ago
Sure, but that's only because he clearly violated a lot of laws and fled instead of facing trial. I am surprised that most people here seem offended by NZ's decision. The guy's clearly a thief, he got a lot of money from people who wanted to watch TV shows, while he didn't make those shows. If someone stole my stuff, fled to NZ and bragged about it online, I'd be pretty pissed too, and surely I'd like the guy to be extradited.
- syshum 10y ago
  >>and fled instead of facing trial. Where did he flee to? Megaupload was started when he lived in NZ, was shutdown when he lived in NZ, and as far as I am aware he still lives in NZ. So where you do you that he fled somewhere? >I am surprised that most people here seem offended by NZ's decision. That is because clearly you do not value due process >The guy's clearly a thief That is not clear to me, of course I also reject the very idea of "Intellectual privilege" and do not believe a download is the equivalent of theft. Which by the way is the factual legal position as well, because when you infringe on copyright, you do not "steal" you infringe. >If someone stole my stuff, What did he steal, I have seen no complaints, or charges in regards to theft. Copyright infringement sure. But that is not theft >fled to NZ he did not flee to NZ,
  - undefined0 10y ago
    Just a slight correction, he lived in Hong Kong when he founded Megaupload and moved to New Zealand later on. Pure speculation but I imagine he moved to Hong Kong to avoid German law after his past conviction there for insider trading.
- philliphaydon 10y ago
  The NZ government is in bed with America. After being caught red handed they attempted to change the law to justify what they did. The entire raid on him was illegal. Regardless of what he did he is an NZ Pernement Resident. He was meant to be protected by NZ laws and the government ignored those laws to bend over and take it from America.