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But, if you decide not tip someone, especially a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour, then you are punishing that worker. Punishing the

by Notre1 10y ago

But, if you decide not tip someone, especially a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour, then you are punishing that worker. Punishing them vastly more than you are punishing are system or the employer. If you really don't want to support tipping culture, don't use any service/store that allows for it and petition your legislature to change the laws.

Pyxl101 10y ago
> But, if you decide not tip someone, especially a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour In the USA, all tipped employees always earn at least the federal minimum wage. There is no such thing as a service worker making $2.35 per hour. https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.htm https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.htm It's possible that food service workers might earn a lot more than minimum wage with tips, such that taking away their tips would hurt their compensation. Perhaps - it's still arguably no concern of the patron. If I'm buying an automobile from a car dealership, should I pay extra because the poor car salesman needs his commission? I don't think so. His compensation is between him and the leadership. It is fair that I negotiate the lowest possible price, and a price that works for me. Regardless of all that, my primary point is that it is incorrect to claim that servers will make less than minimum wage without tips. They always earn minimum wage and so this is not a reason to justify tipping.
PhantomGremlin 10y ago
a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour This varies by state. For example, in Oregon the minimum wage is $9.75, and, importantly: Oregon is one of the few states that does not allow employers to take a tip credit. Employees must be paid at least the full state minimum wage, whether or not they also earn tips. Despite this "high" wage, there is no shortage of restaurants in Oregon. Somehow good restaurants do manage to stay in business here. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/oregon-laws-tipped-employees.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/oregon-laws-tipped-em...
flukus 10y ago
> But, if you decide not tip someone, especially a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour No, the society they live in is punishing them.

by Notre1 10y ago

Pyxl101 10y ago

> But, if you decide not tip someone, especially a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour In the USA, all tipped employees always earn at least the federal minimum wage. There is no such thing as a service worker making $2.35 per hour. https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.htm https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs15.htm It's possible that food service workers might earn a lot more than minimum wage with tips, such that taking away their tips would hurt their compensation. Perhaps - it's still arguably no concern of the patron. If I'm buying an automobile from a car dealership, should I pay extra because the poor car salesman needs his commission? I don't think so. His compensation is between him and the leadership. It is fair that I negotiate the lowest possible price, and a price that works for me. Regardless of all that, my primary point is that it is incorrect to claim that servers will make less than minimum wage without tips. They always earn minimum wage and so this is not a reason to justify tipping.

PhantomGremlin 10y ago

a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour This varies by state. For example, in Oregon the minimum wage is $9.75, and, importantly: Oregon is one of the few states that does not allow employers to take a tip credit. Employees must be paid at least the full state minimum wage, whether or not they also earn tips. Despite this "high" wage, there is no shortage of restaurants in Oregon. Somehow good restaurants do manage to stay in business here. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/oregon-laws-tipped-employees.html http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/oregon-laws-tipped-em...

flukus 10y ago

> But, if you decide not tip someone, especially a food service worker that you know is only making $2.35/hour No, the society they live in is punishing them.