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I don't know where you live but I know some Western European countries where tipping in the way you described it is quite normal.
by pvitz 10y ago
I don't know where you live but I know some Western European countries where tipping in the way you described it is quite normal.
- jsumrall 10y agoSuch as?
- pvitz 10y agoE.g. Austria, Germany, Switzerland
- teknologist 10y agoI was in Switzerland for a couple of years and only saw very drunk people try to tip female bartenders. Otherwise no tips. Prices are high and service staff are well-paid.
- ATsch 10y agoIt is really not normal, at least from my experience being and living in those countries.
- pvitz 10y agoYou obviously have never been to a hairdresser in e.g. Vienna. The same applies to taxis, cloakrooms, hotels, bars and restaurants in southern Germany and Austria. But as said somewhere else, it could depend on your milieu.
- snovv_crash 10y agoNo it isn't. At least in Switzerland, you round up a Franc or two maybe if you are paying with cash, just to make the bill easier to pay. If you are paying card you generally don't tip at all. If you tip 20% you either come off as a stupid tourist, or if you speak the language and explain it is for exceptional service (and not just because you culturally don't know better) you will make the waiter's day.
- jonaswi 10y agoEven tough I was born and raised in Switzerland I always give a 10% tip in a restaurant when I was happy with the service. To give no tip is in my experience considered quite rude. I only ever do it when I was unhappy with the service.
- snovv_crash 10y agoThis has been my experience in the Suisse Romande. Maybe you are from the Schweizerdeutsch side?
- jonaswi 10y agoExactly. I do live in Zurich. I'm in Geneva quite often and even there when having lunch with my romand co-workers they usually tip around 10%. It still is quite surprising how even those "habits" are different in all the different regions here.
- somedudeonHN 10y agoI live in Switzerland too, born and raised here, and everyone tips only when the service is better than usual, or we round up and give a franc or two for the service
- jonaswi 10y agoThats interesting. I guess there is no general pattern here. My personal experience when I was jobbing as a waiter during my university time was different. Larger tips (more than a round up) were rather the rule than the exception. Due to the fact that all tips are usually shared with everyone working in the restaurant I usually even tip if I was not that happy with the service because I liked the food or also the other way around.
- bkor 10y agoTipping a barber in those countries? I think you're making things up.
- pvitz 10y agoNext time you are around, I will be happy to give you a tour. Edit: Have a look yourself at this: https://www.google.de/?q=trinkgeld+friseur+deutschland https://www.google.de/?q=trinkgeld+friseur+deutschland
- OoTheNigerian 10y agoAre you referring to forced "optional" tipping or service charge included in the bill? The latter is ok in my book because it is seen as part of the cost of the service but separated in the invoice just like tax. The former is a BIG pain!
- pvitz 10y agoI have just wanted to object to the notion that this is an exceptional American phenomenon.
- davidivadavid 10y agoIt's also common in Canada. In Europe? I'm not aware of any country using a similar arrangement.
- TheArcane 10y agoI've lived in Belgium, Netherlands, Germany and Denmark. I can testify that I personally observed no tipping culture here whatsoever.
- pvitz 10y agoIn general, there is a north-south divide, but I guess it also depends on your milieu.
- Insanity 10y agoBelgian here - I do tip but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, it's not part of our culture. And I leave mostly small tips, nothing comparable to the US.
- TheArcane 10y agoI once paid a tenner with €5 due and left in a Belgian bistro. I was followed and forced to take back my €5 as they didn't consider tipping appropriate.
- Insanity 10y agoNever had that happen to me - but what I did encounter is that it is explicitely stated that tipping is not necessary and that the service is counted for in the bill. But those are unique instances I believe :-)
- vanderreeah 10y agoNonsense, tipping happens all the time in Germany.