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Suing is a surefire pathway to being made a pariah, case in point Ellen Pao. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Suing is a surefire pathway to being made a pariah, case in point Ellen Pao. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins

tunesmith 10y ago
That article doesn't support anything about her being a pariah.
- afarrell 10y ago
  Anecdotally, I can confirm that most mentions of her on Reddit that I've seen are very pejorative toward her.
  - fnord123 10y ago
    I thought that was because the closed the subreddits focused on harassment. e.g. r/FatPeopleHate. Talking shit about her law suit was just a wedge issue to get under her skin by people predisposed to abusing others.
  - sangnoir 10y ago
    Not sure if your anecdote applies here: as Reddit CEO, she made a number of decisions that were unpopular with mods and users alike - entirely not related to her court action.
    - vertex-four 10y ago
      At which point people decided to use her court action as part of their "proof" that she's a "SJW" and therefore to be hated.
    - cdr 10y ago
      And you are a case in point; spez (Steve Huffman, CEO) actually made those decisions and used Pao as a fall-woman.
      - sangnoir 10y ago
        > And you are a case in point I wasn't aware that spez was co-CEO with ekjp... I thought he only became CEO afterwards. Even if the board/spez forced her to make all of the unpopular decisions (there were many), the buck still stopped with her as the CEO[1], fall-woman or not. Also, why did spez want Victoria gone? He made Ellen Pao fire her too, right? 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3cbo4m/we_apologize/ https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3cbo4m/we_ap...
        deminature 10y ago
        Actually kn0thing/co-founder Alexis Ohanian fired Victoria, but Ellen Pao ended up taking the blame for that too. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0thing_says_he_was_responsible_for_the_change/ct1fsoi/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0t... Note, I'm not affiliated with Pao, I just thought her treatment by the reddit community was extremely disappointing.
- spangry 10y ago
  Yeah I can't find it either. All I can find is this bit that says she sued her employer, alleging gender discrimination, but the jury found in favour of her employer (10-2 and 9-3). I suppose people might be a bit wary of her after that...
ewwertee2454 10y ago
> ...pa<>... I understand that English has absorbed that word and its meaning in the current sense. But please don't use that word. That is like the n-word in south india. It is specifically used to refer to people in a derogatory way.
- deminature 10y ago
  I didn't intend it to be offensive, just to illustrate her persona non grata status after suing for discrimination. My dictionary says the offensive racial use is historical, not current.
- galtwho 10y ago
  Don't think you are right on this... PS : putting this here for those who may be misinformed
- HelloNurse 10y ago
  "Pariah" might be "like the n-word in south India" because in India the relevant castes and ethnic groups are still there and applying the term to an Indian is an actual insult, but for everyone else it's a purely metaphorical reference to a specific and remote historical instance of people treating other people with extreme contempt or worse.
- employee8000 10y ago
  Pariah is a perfectly valid and non-offensive word.
  - ad-hominem 10y ago
    It's a perfectly cromulent word.
kebrixx 10y ago
Blatently false accusations cause you to be made a pariah. And rightfully so. Ellen Pao's false accusations make it harder for women such as this to receive justice.

Suing is a surefire pathway to being made a pariah, case in point Ellen Pao. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pao_v._Kleiner_Perkins

tunesmith 10y ago

That article doesn't support anything about her being a pariah.

afarrell 10y ago
Anecdotally, I can confirm that most mentions of her on Reddit that I've seen are very pejorative toward her.
- fnord123 10y ago
  I thought that was because the closed the subreddits focused on harassment. e.g. r/FatPeopleHate. Talking shit about her law suit was just a wedge issue to get under her skin by people predisposed to abusing others.
- sangnoir 10y ago
  Not sure if your anecdote applies here: as Reddit CEO, she made a number of decisions that were unpopular with mods and users alike - entirely not related to her court action.
  - vertex-four 10y ago
    At which point people decided to use her court action as part of their "proof" that she's a "SJW" and therefore to be hated.
  - cdr 10y ago
    And you are a case in point; spez (Steve Huffman, CEO) actually made those decisions and used Pao as a fall-woman.
    - sangnoir 10y ago
      > And you are a case in point I wasn't aware that spez was co-CEO with ekjp... I thought he only became CEO afterwards. Even if the board/spez forced her to make all of the unpopular decisions (there were many), the buck still stopped with her as the CEO[1], fall-woman or not. Also, why did spez want Victoria gone? He made Ellen Pao fire her too, right? 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3cbo4m/we_apologize/ https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3cbo4m/we_ap...
      - deminature 10y ago
        Actually kn0thing/co-founder Alexis Ohanian fired Victoria, but Ellen Pao ended up taking the blame for that too. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0thing_says_he_was_responsible_for_the_change/ct1fsoi/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/3d2hv3/kn0t... Note, I'm not affiliated with Pao, I just thought her treatment by the reddit community was extremely disappointing.
spangry 10y ago
Yeah I can't find it either. All I can find is this bit that says she sued her employer, alleging gender discrimination, but the jury found in favour of her employer (10-2 and 9-3). I suppose people might be a bit wary of her after that...

ewwertee2454 10y ago

> ...pa<>... I understand that English has absorbed that word and its meaning in the current sense. But please don't use that word. That is like the n-word in south india. It is specifically used to refer to people in a derogatory way.

deminature 10y ago
I didn't intend it to be offensive, just to illustrate her persona non grata status after suing for discrimination. My dictionary says the offensive racial use is historical, not current.
galtwho 10y ago
Don't think you are right on this... PS : putting this here for those who may be misinformed
HelloNurse 10y ago
"Pariah" might be "like the n-word in south India" because in India the relevant castes and ethnic groups are still there and applying the term to an Indian is an actual insult, but for everyone else it's a purely metaphorical reference to a specific and remote historical instance of people treating other people with extreme contempt or worse.
employee8000 10y ago
Pariah is a perfectly valid and non-offensive word.
- ad-hominem 10y ago
  It's a perfectly cromulent word.

kebrixx 10y ago

Blatently false accusations cause you to be made a pariah. And rightfully so. Ellen Pao's false accusations make it harder for women such as this to receive justice.