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Thank you. The swiftness with which the hammer has fallen on Uber, is disturbing. Yes, at face value, this looks bad for Uber. But, the claims here are serio

Thank you. The swiftness with which the hammer has fallen on Uber, is disturbing. Yes, at face value, this looks bad for Uber. But, the claims here are serious enough that we really should be holding our judgement before an investigation, or some other evidence surfaces. This does not mean I think her claims are false. In fact, I BELIEVE them to be true, but I withhold my judgment and public criticism until I can be sure.

camdenlock 10y ago
A rare appeal to reason and thoughtfulness! Well put.
vkazanov 10y ago
Finally, some reason!
sinuage 10y ago
Healthy Skepticism is well... healthy, but I think at this point there is enough evidence out there to confirm the story. Case in point, a quick look at glassdoor reviews seems to confirm the story. (there's even one that says it's "Not Great for Women" - Sep 2016 although it's not as devastating as this article but the info from that and other reviews seem to support what she's saying) It's disturbing when it seems people are jumping react before all the facts are there, but it seems the story is verifiably true. If there is still doubt, I think the discussion is better served by bringing up specific items than a whole cloth rejection of the story.
- searealist 10y ago
  The only thing that review says in reference to women is "Emotionally unintelligent male managers (all the way up to the CEO) make it hard for women to feel heard and valued." This has nothing to do with sexual harassment. There is also talk of long hours, but it is not clear if the reviewer meant that is a negative specific to women or not.
  - sinuage 10y ago
    I don't mean to imply that 1 review on glassdoor is the smoking gun. But a bunch of reviews talking about the same issues (not specific to sexual harassment), and other comments and testimonials not on glassdoor seem to point in the same general direction. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean it needs to be incontrovertible. Let's not miss the forest for the trees here, this isn't about a single case of sexual harassment (at least to me it isn't). It's about how Uber is operating as a business and culture and from that what are its long term prospects.
- frinxor 10y ago
  How does a glassworks review of 'not great for women' confirm her story? It looks bad, and is LIKELY bad, but come on... Just like rubicon says, no matter how much you'd like to believe, wait for confirmation.
bitmapbrother 10y ago
If this was a he said she said case then you would have a point. We should all wait until the facts come out before making a judgement. But, there are so many corroborating accusations from her fellow female peers that makes it very hard to not to believe her story. You do not make a public statement that you have corroborating accusations from your fellow female peers without being absolutely certain because if those claims are discredited then you've instantly lost your credibility.

camdenlock 10y ago

A rare appeal to reason and thoughtfulness! Well put.

vkazanov 10y ago

Finally, some reason!

sinuage 10y ago

Healthy Skepticism is well... healthy, but I think at this point there is enough evidence out there to confirm the story. Case in point, a quick look at glassdoor reviews seems to confirm the story. (there's even one that says it's "Not Great for Women" - Sep 2016 although it's not as devastating as this article but the info from that and other reviews seem to support what she's saying) It's disturbing when it seems people are jumping react before all the facts are there, but it seems the story is verifiably true. If there is still doubt, I think the discussion is better served by bringing up specific items than a whole cloth rejection of the story.

searealist 10y ago
The only thing that review says in reference to women is "Emotionally unintelligent male managers (all the way up to the CEO) make it hard for women to feel heard and valued." This has nothing to do with sexual harassment. There is also talk of long hours, but it is not clear if the reviewer meant that is a negative specific to women or not.
- sinuage 10y ago
  I don't mean to imply that 1 review on glassdoor is the smoking gun. But a bunch of reviews talking about the same issues (not specific to sexual harassment), and other comments and testimonials not on glassdoor seem to point in the same general direction. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't mean it needs to be incontrovertible. Let's not miss the forest for the trees here, this isn't about a single case of sexual harassment (at least to me it isn't). It's about how Uber is operating as a business and culture and from that what are its long term prospects.
frinxor 10y ago
How does a glassworks review of 'not great for women' confirm her story? It looks bad, and is LIKELY bad, but come on... Just like rubicon says, no matter how much you'd like to believe, wait for confirmation.

bitmapbrother 10y ago

If this was a he said she said case then you would have a point. We should all wait until the facts come out before making a judgement. But, there are so many corroborating accusations from her fellow female peers that makes it very hard to not to believe her story. You do not make a public statement that you have corroborating accusations from your fellow female peers without being absolutely certain because if those claims are discredited then you've instantly lost your credibility.