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I think one senior person isn't enough in a case like this. What is described here is an entire malfunctioning department, which in my opinion, couldn't be attr

I think one senior person isn't enough in a case like this. What is described here is an entire malfunctioning department, which in my opinion, couldn't be attributed to anywhere below the C-level. Sure perhaps there is somebody who can be fingered "VP of HR" or whatever, but anybody who has so little visibility into their department that this type of scenario could evolve is clearly not auditing what's happening levels beneath them.

genericpseudo 10y ago
Yes, exactly. Nothing should be off the table if this is nearly as wide-ranging as alleged, up to and including Travis Kalanick's termination for cause as CEO.
- gydfi 10y ago
  Sure, whatever, because of one mid-level manager being a perv?
  - onion2k 10y ago
    Because Uber appears to have a culture of accepting that behaviour and lying to employees to deliberately perpetuate it.
    - alexandercrohde 10y ago
      One of the most fundamental purposes of HR is to hear employee complaints, particularly legal ones and to get them solved to both moral and legal satisfaction. It sounds like this HR department did everything exactly backward by focusing on hiding problems rather than addressing them, and they would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling bloggers.
  - halbritt 10y ago
    Assuming the events happened as described, the fact that the manager was not immediately terminated makes the CEO directly culpable for illegal behavior. So, yeah.
HelloNurse 10y ago
I don't see how a free-willed HR department with actual managers could accept managers adjusting performance reviews to suit their personal purposes. Even the most callous and treacherous evil HR officers would want to be in control.
idiot_stick 10y ago
>I think one senior person isn't enough in a case like this. How can you make a statement like this without knowing anything about the details of the case? We have an allegation; a big one, but that's it. How many heads would you like to see in advance?
- alexandercrohde 10y ago
  It's not so much a number of heads, but what I reject is the common notion that somebody can be so many levels above a problem that they are absolved of responsibility. Let me ask you this: How many people in the HR department would you need to see leave before you'd feel comfortable having your sister work at Uber? What would you need to see to have trust?
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genericpseudo 10y ago

Yes, exactly. Nothing should be off the table if this is nearly as wide-ranging as alleged, up to and including Travis Kalanick's termination for cause as CEO.

gydfi 10y ago
Sure, whatever, because of one mid-level manager being a perv?
- onion2k 10y ago
  Because Uber appears to have a culture of accepting that behaviour and lying to employees to deliberately perpetuate it.
  - alexandercrohde 10y ago
    One of the most fundamental purposes of HR is to hear employee complaints, particularly legal ones and to get them solved to both moral and legal satisfaction. It sounds like this HR department did everything exactly backward by focusing on hiding problems rather than addressing them, and they would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling bloggers.
- halbritt 10y ago
  Assuming the events happened as described, the fact that the manager was not immediately terminated makes the CEO directly culpable for illegal behavior. So, yeah.

HelloNurse 10y ago

I don't see how a free-willed HR department with actual managers could accept managers adjusting performance reviews to suit their personal purposes. Even the most callous and treacherous evil HR officers would want to be in control.

idiot_stick 10y ago

>I think one senior person isn't enough in a case like this. How can you make a statement like this without knowing anything about the details of the case? We have an allegation; a big one, but that's it. How many heads would you like to see in advance?

alexandercrohde 10y ago
It's not so much a number of heads, but what I reject is the common notion that somebody can be so many levels above a problem that they are absolved of responsibility. Let me ask you this: How many people in the HR department would you need to see leave before you'd feel comfortable having your sister work at Uber? What would you need to see to have trust?
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