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Actually it could do the opposite, we assume that everyone wants to spend their lives doing boring, repetitive work that is better handled by machines. Who woul

by shams93 10y ago

Actually it could do the opposite, we assume that everyone wants to spend their lives doing boring, repetitive work that is better handled by machines. Who wouldn't rather have the resources to take the rock band on tour, or go mountain climbing or compete in surfing tournaments? Or make art or do pure scientific research?

ocdtrekkie 10y ago
The problem is when AI can make art and do pure scientific research. And play better music than you that people would rather go listen to.
- dragonsky67 10y ago
  Interestingly enough, the bands that I go to see are not the best musicians, they are the ones that entertain me. I'm not sure that AI will be able to do that for quite some time.
mc32 10y ago
What proportion of the pop do you suppose, given their druthers, would dedicate their lives to going through school, learning things that would not be rendered pointless by AI and robotics? Maybe my recollection of high school is off so maybe my recollecting kids asking, "Why do I have to study that?", "Do we have to?" , "When will that ever be relevant in my life?" etc. is not representative, but I think it is. Given the choice of learning (and non-transhuman) and just living something akin to a pastoral society, I don't see many people choosing the hard way, if their lives and livelihood don't depend on it.
keyanp 10y ago
Sure, more time to do things we enjoy sounds great. But do you really think the average person will be given access to greater financial resources to pursue those things? If there ends up being a universal income, what kind of life do you think it would buy? Seems more likely that a government heavily influenced by corporate interests would enact laws that further widen the economic gap. That a life on universal income would be more similar to a life on public assistance today, than to a utopia where unemployed truck drivers are free to make art as a way to find purpose. I don't doubt the life you describe is possible. But I fear that is not the path we are on, and unfortunately I'm not sure if there is a way to change that.

by shams93 10y ago

ocdtrekkie 10y ago

The problem is when AI can make art and do pure scientific research. And play better music than you that people would rather go listen to.

dragonsky67 10y ago
Interestingly enough, the bands that I go to see are not the best musicians, they are the ones that entertain me. I'm not sure that AI will be able to do that for quite some time.

mc32 10y ago

What proportion of the pop do you suppose, given their druthers, would dedicate their lives to going through school, learning things that would not be rendered pointless by AI and robotics? Maybe my recollection of high school is off so maybe my recollecting kids asking, "Why do I have to study that?", "Do we have to?" , "When will that ever be relevant in my life?" etc. is not representative, but I think it is. Given the choice of learning (and non-transhuman) and just living something akin to a pastoral society, I don't see many people choosing the hard way, if their lives and livelihood don't depend on it.

keyanp 10y ago

Sure, more time to do things we enjoy sounds great. But do you really think the average person will be given access to greater financial resources to pursue those things? If there ends up being a universal income, what kind of life do you think it would buy? Seems more likely that a government heavily influenced by corporate interests would enact laws that further widen the economic gap. That a life on universal income would be more similar to a life on public assistance today, than to a utopia where unemployed truck drivers are free to make art as a way to find purpose. I don't doubt the life you describe is possible. But I fear that is not the path we are on, and unfortunately I'm not sure if there is a way to change that.