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Well that was certainly quick. Context (Not that anyone needs it) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022

by M_Grey 10y ago

mc32 10y ago
Well, with something so public and damning, an organization so exposed to public opinion has to _do Something_ --even if that includes collateral damage or whether it actually accomplishes something internally. It has to do something for public relations reasons, if nothing else. That's not being cynical, that's just how it is. It's not very different from companies who sell directly to the public having to fire people who make inexcusable statements which become public --it's not as though in private, out of customer's earshots, lot's of unbecoming things aren't said. But when something becomes public, they have to do something, with cause or not.
toast76 10y ago
No, it wasn't quick. It is way way too late. It shouldn't require someone to publicly shame them before taking action. Acting now, after what was known privately is now public, is a cynical effort to appease the masses whilst continuing to condone ongoing practices within their organisation. The people involved should've been fired long ago, and for Kalanick to come out and say what happened is "against everything Uber stands for and believes in", thus suggesting he was unaware, only serves to reinforce his failure as leader. Blame ultimately lies with the CEO, no matter what. Women shouldn't need to put their careers on the line to publicly shame a company before justice is seen. (edit: apologies to the parent, was not pointing fingers at you...anger was misdirected)
- x0x0 10y ago
  Not to mention the (presumably) millions of dollars she was forced to walk away from. I can't imagine that HR allowing repeated sexual harassment claims to go without any consequences, not to mention a manager feeling comfortable propositioning a direct report OVER WRITTEN CHAT, comes from anything but people certain the company allowed their actions.
- M_Grey 10y ago
  You're right of course, but to be clear I only meant it was a short period of time from the story breaking, to a response. I'm not praising Uber, I'm not noting the intensity and rapidity of their, "Oh shit" reaction.
  - rhizome 10y ago
    It took him 10 minutes, if that, to text the person who's going to investigate so they heard it from him first, then a couple of tweets.

Well that was certainly quick. Context (Not that anyone needs it) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022

by M_Grey 10y ago

Well that was certainly quick. Context (Not that anyone needs it) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13682022

mc32 10y ago

Well, with something so public and damning, an organization so exposed to public opinion has to _do Something_ --even if that includes collateral damage or whether it actually accomplishes something internally. It has to do something for public relations reasons, if nothing else. That's not being cynical, that's just how it is. It's not very different from companies who sell directly to the public having to fire people who make inexcusable statements which become public --it's not as though in private, out of customer's earshots, lot's of unbecoming things aren't said. But when something becomes public, they have to do something, with cause or not.

toast76 10y ago

No, it wasn't quick. It is way way too late. It shouldn't require someone to publicly shame them before taking action. Acting now, after what was known privately is now public, is a cynical effort to appease the masses whilst continuing to condone ongoing practices within their organisation. The people involved should've been fired long ago, and for Kalanick to come out and say what happened is "against everything Uber stands for and believes in", thus suggesting he was unaware, only serves to reinforce his failure as leader. Blame ultimately lies with the CEO, no matter what. Women shouldn't need to put their careers on the line to publicly shame a company before justice is seen. (edit: apologies to the parent, was not pointing fingers at you...anger was misdirected)

x0x0 10y ago
Not to mention the (presumably) millions of dollars she was forced to walk away from. I can't imagine that HR allowing repeated sexual harassment claims to go without any consequences, not to mention a manager feeling comfortable propositioning a direct report OVER WRITTEN CHAT, comes from anything but people certain the company allowed their actions.
M_Grey 10y ago
You're right of course, but to be clear I only meant it was a short period of time from the story breaking, to a response. I'm not praising Uber, I'm not noting the intensity and rapidity of their, "Oh shit" reaction.
- rhizome 10y ago
  It took him 10 minutes, if that, to text the person who's going to investigate so they heard it from him first, then a couple of tweets.