This is why I love threaded comments, especially in reddit's style. You can just hit that little [-] button to collapse and ignore the noisy threads, and find t

This is why I love threaded comments, especially in reddit's style. You can just hit that little [-] button to collapse and ignore the noisy threads, and find the valuable discussion much easier. Even if half of a topic there is just terrible puns, usually there's some actual discussion further down the page. Actually, one place I've found is very good to find discussion on reddit and HN is in response to the greatly downvoted trolls. Usually the trolls don't have much of a point or terribly flawed arguments, but the people responding to them actually seem to do a decent job of being serious most times.