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Seems to be not open source[1], which is a deal breaker for me. It is also in PHP which I also frown up on for a rather new project in this day and age. I do n

by cies 10y ago

Seems to be not open source[1], which is a deal breaker for me. It is also in PHP which I also frown up on for a rather new project in this day and age. I do not see how it could win me away from either QOR (Go), Grav (PHP, but MIT licensed) or DatoCMS (SaaS but ties in with Hugo). 1: https://github.com/getkirby/kirby/blob/master/license.md https://github.com/getkirby/kirby/blob/master/license.md

omnimus 10y ago
Honestly only reason would be admin interface. If you need clients to manage the site than Gravs admin interface is horrible especialy if you have more pages - there are dropdowns everywhere so good luck if you have 500 pages. Also grav allow restroctions in admin so for example if you have /blog which contains blogposts you cannot say that /blog can only have pages of type blogpost - it shows every single type. Issues about this on github are ignored by Grav core devs on purpose. The reason for this is that they are company with bussiness plan and they are preparing their commercial "Admin pro" while they leave the basic interface just crippled. I would like open source too but fees are low and the devs are extremely open. Also kirby has much cleaner api, its much older and mature and the support is amazing. There are dedicated support people on their forums and you get response very quickly. From where you are coming from - i dont think its thing for you. Its aimed at noobs and rapid dev of presentational sites.
wishinghand 10y ago
The license isn't free but it is open source, you can examine the entire source code in that repo.
- detaro 10y ago
  That's not open source by common definitions of the word, e.g. the most commonly referenced OSI definition: https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd
- kupiakos 10y ago
  That would be something more like "shared source" than "open source".
inthewoods 10y ago
Datocms is interesting - we've been using cloudcannon for our website and found it could aside from the speed. The advantage over Dato would be the wysiwyg in-place editor. So you can edit a page "live" which is important for placement.

by cies 10y ago

omnimus 10y ago

Honestly only reason would be admin interface. If you need clients to manage the site than Gravs admin interface is horrible especialy if you have more pages - there are dropdowns everywhere so good luck if you have 500 pages. Also grav allow restroctions in admin so for example if you have /blog which contains blogposts you cannot say that /blog can only have pages of type blogpost - it shows every single type. Issues about this on github are ignored by Grav core devs on purpose. The reason for this is that they are company with bussiness plan and they are preparing their commercial "Admin pro" while they leave the basic interface just crippled. I would like open source too but fees are low and the devs are extremely open. Also kirby has much cleaner api, its much older and mature and the support is amazing. There are dedicated support people on their forums and you get response very quickly. From where you are coming from - i dont think its thing for you. Its aimed at noobs and rapid dev of presentational sites.

wishinghand 10y ago

The license isn't free but it is open source, you can examine the entire source code in that repo.

detaro 10y ago
That's not open source by common definitions of the word, e.g. the most commonly referenced OSI definition: https://opensource.org/osd https://opensource.org/osd
kupiakos 10y ago
That would be something more like "shared source" than "open source".

inthewoods 10y ago

Datocms is interesting - we've been using cloudcannon for our website and found it could aside from the speed. The advantage over Dato would be the wysiwyg in-place editor. So you can edit a page "live" which is important for placement.