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Personally I disagree with you, not because I am Jewish or anti-semitic, but because there is no need to censor myself when something is such a seriously import

Personally I disagree with you, not because I am Jewish or anti-semitic, but because there is no need to censor myself when something is such a seriously important issue. When dealing with politics, people signal who they are based on what actions they actually do. When you research people who are anti-regulation, you may notice some trends. Since you believe in censoring my discussion of these types of people, the reader will need to google this elsewhere, since apparently to satisfy you, I must not inject one word of potentially controversial information that might offend even just one person

grzm 10y ago
I think you misunderstand me. I am not arguing that you should censor what you say; I'm arguing that you should take extra care in how you present your argument. (Or, more simply, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.) The HN community strongly values civility and substantive discourse. To discuss difficult, contentious topics requires extra effort to ensure that forward progress is made. If that level of restraint doesn't interest you, HN might not be the place you want to discuss these types of topics. Regardless of your position, HN members will downvote and flag uncivil and flamewar inciting language.
- salesguy222 10y ago
  Thank you, I can respect this! I will stress once more, that specific words or phrases that are uncivil or flamewar inciting are difficult to assess beforehand, in my opinion. one day it will be ((())), the next day, someone may be offended that someone is criticizing their company for a product failure, such as at Samsung. This stifled debate of any kind, in my opinion, because there will always be someone who stands to lose something and therefore be offended by a debate that affects their vested interests negatively
  - grzm 10y ago
    I will stress once more, that specific words or phrases that are uncivil or flamewar inciting are difficult to assess beforehand, in my opinion. If this is something you're concerned about, I suggest taking some time away from commenting on contentious issues (even those you may only suspect are contentious) until you get a better understanding of HN community standards and behavior. For example, if you're going be offended if people downvote your comments and continue to comment on being downvoted, you're going against community guidelines and likely going to attract even more downvotes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - salesguy222 10y ago
      Thank you, that's fine, I can totally respect the wishes of the community :)

grzm 10y ago

I think you misunderstand me. I am not arguing that you should censor what you say; I'm arguing that you should take extra care in how you present your argument. (Or, more simply, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.) The HN community strongly values civility and substantive discourse. To discuss difficult, contentious topics requires extra effort to ensure that forward progress is made. If that level of restraint doesn't interest you, HN might not be the place you want to discuss these types of topics. Regardless of your position, HN members will downvote and flag uncivil and flamewar inciting language.

salesguy222 10y ago
Thank you, I can respect this! I will stress once more, that specific words or phrases that are uncivil or flamewar inciting are difficult to assess beforehand, in my opinion. one day it will be ((())), the next day, someone may be offended that someone is criticizing their company for a product failure, such as at Samsung. This stifled debate of any kind, in my opinion, because there will always be someone who stands to lose something and therefore be offended by a debate that affects their vested interests negatively
- grzm 10y ago
  I will stress once more, that specific words or phrases that are uncivil or flamewar inciting are difficult to assess beforehand, in my opinion. If this is something you're concerned about, I suggest taking some time away from commenting on contentious issues (even those you may only suspect are contentious) until you get a better understanding of HN community standards and behavior. For example, if you're going be offended if people downvote your comments and continue to comment on being downvoted, you're going against community guidelines and likely going to attract even more downvotes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - salesguy222 10y ago
    Thank you, that's fine, I can totally respect the wishes of the community :)