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> The best ones are the ones that can push out a solution given too little time and given a (maybe self inflicted) bad code base. If every open source project

> The best ones are the ones that can push out a solution given too little time and given a (maybe self inflicted) bad code base. If every open source project was developed by those principles, all high and mighty web companies would collapse. Good work is being done, but it's for free. EDIT: You're right of course about the reality in the parasitic companies.

erikb 10y ago
Sorry to disappoint. But despite the rare exception here and there most open source development is either paid or quickly forgotten. If I put into google "Linus Torvalds income" the first sentence reads: "Finnish-American software engineer and hacker Linus Torvalds has as estimated net worth of $150 million and an estimated annual salary of $10 million" Money.
- thrwxxxx 10y ago
  The man's name is "Linus" and outliers aren't good examples. Also, he has mostly been merging other people's work for quite some time. CPython for example is mostly developed for free.
  - erikb 10y ago
    lol, it's true that most development in open source is paid. It's really easy to experience. Just work anywhere where people develop open source or make heavy use of it. But it's really hard to proof to someone who hasn't experienced it since nearly every example and statistic can be doubted. So doubt as much as you want. But if you think there's something worth learning out there, try to experience it and you'll see it's >90% paid work.
    - thrwyyy 10y ago
      It is clear that you have no clue. Probably you think that the existence of "foundations" means that money arrives at the people doing the actual work. I on the other hand work on a very large open source project.
- timthelion 10y ago
  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4Xo3CdCcAA2xm1.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4Xo3CdCcAA2xm1.jpg He has about $20 million[1], + cca $90k a year from the linux foundation [2]. [1] https://www.quora.com/How-rich-is-Linus-Torvalds https://www.quora.com/How-rich-is-Linus-Torvalds [2] That he gets a salary from linux foundation: https://www.engadget.com/2007/01/22/the-linux-foundation-forms-issues-call-to-arms/ https://www.engadget.com/2007/01/22/the-linux-foundation-for... (doesn't say amount) I cannot find the hight of his salary now, but I read it somewhere.

erikb 10y ago

Sorry to disappoint. But despite the rare exception here and there most open source development is either paid or quickly forgotten. If I put into google "Linus Torvalds income" the first sentence reads: "Finnish-American software engineer and hacker Linus Torvalds has as estimated net worth of $150 million and an estimated annual salary of $10 million" Money.

thrwxxxx 10y ago
The man's name is "Linus" and outliers aren't good examples. Also, he has mostly been merging other people's work for quite some time. CPython for example is mostly developed for free.
- erikb 10y ago
  lol, it's true that most development in open source is paid. It's really easy to experience. Just work anywhere where people develop open source or make heavy use of it. But it's really hard to proof to someone who hasn't experienced it since nearly every example and statistic can be doubted. So doubt as much as you want. But if you think there's something worth learning out there, try to experience it and you'll see it's >90% paid work.
  - thrwyyy 10y ago
    It is clear that you have no clue. Probably you think that the existence of "foundations" means that money arrives at the people doing the actual work. I on the other hand work on a very large open source project.
timthelion 10y ago
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4Xo3CdCcAA2xm1.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4Xo3CdCcAA2xm1.jpg He has about $20 million[1], + cca $90k a year from the linux foundation [2]. [1] https://www.quora.com/How-rich-is-Linus-Torvalds https://www.quora.com/How-rich-is-Linus-Torvalds [2] That he gets a salary from linux foundation: https://www.engadget.com/2007/01/22/the-linux-foundation-forms-issues-call-to-arms/ https://www.engadget.com/2007/01/22/the-linux-foundation-for... (doesn't say amount) I cannot find the hight of his salary now, but I read it somewhere.