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These letters always come off as sounding immature. The open letter, the why I quit, the why I switch letters all do. It is as if you need validation for someth

These letters always come off as sounding immature. The open letter, the why I quit, the why I switch letters all do. It is as if you need validation for something.

concinds 10y ago
That's a losing mindset. I don't think the letter goes far enough. If Apple is doing something you don't like, put pressure on them. A better strategy than OP's would be to go to greater lengths, like labeling Apple "anti-developer" (the same way Trump uses labels against his opponents), but too many here are too scrupulous and rationally-minded to do this. The basic fact is, the tactics you need to use in a philosophical debate and the tactics you need to use to effect change are different, and, to be effective, you need to be a bit radical and a loose-cannon. Activists who insist on being factual, moderate or respectful, lose. That includes political activists, union leaders, as well as anybody that wants to change corporate behavior or policy as is the case here.
- concinds 10y ago
  To expand on this: Unions are an old-school idea. But unions won't work to protect iOS developers from Apple. So why doesn't someone build up a brand, blog, or platform as a "developer's advocate"? A Twitter account, speaking on behalf of 100k followers, has leverage influence, and power. They can represent people, organize communities discussing developers' issues, and speak out with a single voice. Why does nobody do this? It's easier for Apple to ignore 100k individuals than for them to ignore 1 organization with 100k followers. The latter will get much wider media coverage. Social media empowered mobs, why not use that for good?
valuearb 10y ago
I develop in Xcode every day, and it's usually the least of my problems. Everything this letter asked for is an I don't care for me.
- AsyncAwait 10y ago
  I guess you're lucky, because I fight SourceKit crashes every couple of minutes.
  - slavapestov 10y ago
    You can find SourceKit crash logs in Console.app; can you file a bug and attach some of them?
    - AsyncAwait 10y ago
      Sure, I'll have a look and file some bugs.
rdiddly 10y ago
Everything posted on the internet is like that.
mercer 10y ago
Validation is exactly why 'these letters' can be useful and even necessary. Nobody cares if a lone developer complains, but if he find enough validation (through letters or as others here say, filing a bug report), it very well might make a difference. I'm honestly curious what makes it sound immature though. Could you elaborate?

These letters always come off as sounding immature. The open letter, the why I quit, the why I switch letters all do. It is as if you need validation for something.

concinds 10y ago

That's a losing mindset. I don't think the letter goes far enough. If Apple is doing something you don't like, put pressure on them. A better strategy than OP's would be to go to greater lengths, like labeling Apple "anti-developer" (the same way Trump uses labels against his opponents), but too many here are too scrupulous and rationally-minded to do this. The basic fact is, the tactics you need to use in a philosophical debate and the tactics you need to use to effect change are different, and, to be effective, you need to be a bit radical and a loose-cannon. Activists who insist on being factual, moderate or respectful, lose. That includes political activists, union leaders, as well as anybody that wants to change corporate behavior or policy as is the case here.

concinds 10y ago
To expand on this: Unions are an old-school idea. But unions won't work to protect iOS developers from Apple. So why doesn't someone build up a brand, blog, or platform as a "developer's advocate"? A Twitter account, speaking on behalf of 100k followers, has leverage influence, and power. They can represent people, organize communities discussing developers' issues, and speak out with a single voice. Why does nobody do this? It's easier for Apple to ignore 100k individuals than for them to ignore 1 organization with 100k followers. The latter will get much wider media coverage. Social media empowered mobs, why not use that for good?

valuearb 10y ago

I develop in Xcode every day, and it's usually the least of my problems. Everything this letter asked for is an I don't care for me.

AsyncAwait 10y ago
I guess you're lucky, because I fight SourceKit crashes every couple of minutes.
- slavapestov 10y ago
  You can find SourceKit crash logs in Console.app; can you file a bug and attach some of them?
  - AsyncAwait 10y ago
    Sure, I'll have a look and file some bugs.

rdiddly 10y ago

Everything posted on the internet is like that.

mercer 10y ago

Validation is exactly why 'these letters' can be useful and even necessary. Nobody cares if a lone developer complains, but if he find enough validation (through letters or as others here say, filing a bug report), it very well might make a difference. I'm honestly curious what makes it sound immature though. Could you elaborate?