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I want to give a plug for Vultr here. Compared to their competitors, IMHO they're really good and really under-rated. I've had very good performance from their

I want to give a plug for Vultr here. Compared to their competitors, IMHO they're really good and really under-rated. I've had very good performance from their servers, and their 14 datacenters allows you to spread out to regions when you need to. They also charge one of the lowest bandwidth overages, $0.02/GB. Still too high, but industry-wise it's the best you can get for VPSes right now. AWS for contrast is $0.09/GB unless you're a huge company and can get the bulk rates. Vultr also has some basic DDoS mitigation options. They're not the best at mitigation (10Gbps scrubbing, vs OVH which can handle a terabit now), but what they provide is far superior to nothing. If you get a DDoS on the other options, prepare to have your server null routed for days. (And no, the Cloudflare free plan is not real DDoS scrubbing and not an option for me, sorry. I like my SSL terminated on my OS, not someone else's.) My favorite advantage Vultr provides though is that they, unlike all of these other services, allow you to use BGP and your own IP addresses if you have them. I no longer take any hosting providers seriously (including AWS and Google Cloud) unless they can provide this https://www.vultr.com/features/bgp/ https://www.vultr.com/features/bgp/

cknight 10y ago
I was a fan of Vultr until, after Linode changed their $10 plan to have 2GB RAM, Vultr didn't match it. Beyond $5 it's no longer all that competitive. I guess the same couple be said of DO but I've never actually used them.
- eatonphil 10y ago
  One nice thing DO and Vultr has is built-in support for FreeBSD (both) and Windows Server (Vultr). That said, I run OpenBSD, FreeBSD and SmartOS VMs on Linode through a manual install process. The only issue there is password resets through the web UI don't work and backups wouldn't work either. Here is the guide I used to get FreeBSD working [0], and the others were easy to figure out from there. [0] https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-freebsd-on-linode https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-d...
  - kyledrake 10y ago
    Vultr supports autoconfig OpenBSD now (and probably FreeBSD?), you should give that a shot.
- kyledrake 10y ago
  But the Vultr $20 plan with 2GB RAM also has more bandwidth and disk space, and 2 CPU cores instead of 1. So I guess it depends on what you're looking for. I still think it's a great deal for what you get.
  - cknight 10y ago
    For standard plans, both Vultr and Linode have 1 CPU core at $10, both have 2 CPU cores at $20, and so on. Up to $80 a month, both companies have the same CPU count, but Linode has double the RAM. Vultr's bandwidth starts out a bit better but is surpassed by Linode as the price tiers increase. Linode's disk space is also a bit more generous. Were it not for Vultr's current promotion matching the first $100 of funds that new customers put in their accounts, I would think that they seem uninterested in competing.
matt_wulfeck 10y ago
> I like my SSL terminated on my OS, not someone else's. This is a good idea for some people. The vast majority of us would benefit from the security of having termination on a host outside of our control and especially away from a public-facing webserver. Besides, I believe at this point "accidental leak from an engineer" is about 100x more likely than sophisticated hackers.
- kyledrake 10y ago
  > The vast majority of us would benefit from the security of having termination on a host outside of our control To some of us, SSL is more than just something you use to put a fancy lock logo on people's web browsers.
  - Kubuxu 10y ago
    I agree with this so much. I don't know how people can be ok with terminating their SSL in CloudFlare and then sometimes running the plain, old HTTP from the CF to their servers. Even if you run from CF to your server via HTTPS, I wouldn't trust CF. There is no such thing as free service in this world. They have profit in your data or in your users'.
    - corobo 10y ago
      Free users provide the DDoSes and other malicious traffic CF uses to protect paying customers.

cknight 10y ago

I was a fan of Vultr until, after Linode changed their $10 plan to have 2GB RAM, Vultr didn't match it. Beyond $5 it's no longer all that competitive. I guess the same couple be said of DO but I've never actually used them.

eatonphil 10y ago
One nice thing DO and Vultr has is built-in support for FreeBSD (both) and Windows Server (Vultr). That said, I run OpenBSD, FreeBSD and SmartOS VMs on Linode through a manual install process. The only issue there is password resets through the web UI don't work and backups wouldn't work either. Here is the guide I used to get FreeBSD working [0], and the others were easy to figure out from there. [0] https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-distros/install-freebsd-on-linode https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/custom-kernels-d...
- kyledrake 10y ago
  Vultr supports autoconfig OpenBSD now (and probably FreeBSD?), you should give that a shot.
kyledrake 10y ago
But the Vultr $20 plan with 2GB RAM also has more bandwidth and disk space, and 2 CPU cores instead of 1. So I guess it depends on what you're looking for. I still think it's a great deal for what you get.
- cknight 10y ago
  For standard plans, both Vultr and Linode have 1 CPU core at $10, both have 2 CPU cores at $20, and so on. Up to $80 a month, both companies have the same CPU count, but Linode has double the RAM. Vultr's bandwidth starts out a bit better but is surpassed by Linode as the price tiers increase. Linode's disk space is also a bit more generous. Were it not for Vultr's current promotion matching the first $100 of funds that new customers put in their accounts, I would think that they seem uninterested in competing.

matt_wulfeck 10y ago

> I like my SSL terminated on my OS, not someone else's. This is a good idea for some people. The vast majority of us would benefit from the security of having termination on a host outside of our control and especially away from a public-facing webserver. Besides, I believe at this point "accidental leak from an engineer" is about 100x more likely than sophisticated hackers.

kyledrake 10y ago
> The vast majority of us would benefit from the security of having termination on a host outside of our control To some of us, SSL is more than just something you use to put a fancy lock logo on people's web browsers.
- Kubuxu 10y ago
  I agree with this so much. I don't know how people can be ok with terminating their SSL in CloudFlare and then sometimes running the plain, old HTTP from the CF to their servers. Even if you run from CF to your server via HTTPS, I wouldn't trust CF. There is no such thing as free service in this world. They have profit in your data or in your users'.
  - corobo 10y ago
    Free users provide the DDoSes and other malicious traffic CF uses to protect paying customers.