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"But we didn't achieve the development velocity over the 8 months that we had hoped for when we started out, and as such we didn't achieve the depth of communit
by chuhnk 10y ago
"But we didn't achieve the development velocity over the 8 months that we had hoped for when we started out, and as such we didn't achieve the depth of community engagement we had hoped for either."
Open source is tough, even as a successful VC funded company. Gotta give credit to CoreOS though, rather than beating a dead horse they're acknowledging there's little external interest and their time would be better spent focused elsewhere. Seeing as they've discontinued Fleet as well it's likely they're doubling down on the commercial Tectonic product built on kubernetes. There's also likely pressure from their investors to start making money, especially as they're well into using their series B and might want to look to raise more money.
Distributed file storage is a tough market in itself. Developers get excited about technology but how many need this as opposed to a highly available database? I love the building blocks of distributed systems and understand that Google's technology is built on a layering of tech (Colossus, Spanner, etc) but it seems the world is not yet ready. Everyone is already struggling to understand the complexities of this new ecosystem and how the pieces all fit together.
Again, good move by CoreOS, wish them luck with their commercial strategy.
- pyb 10y agoAnd, well, it looks like it was mostly just one guy working on it.
- michaelcampbell 10y agoI missed the fleet discontinuation notice. Is there a link somewhere about it?
- parenthephobia 10y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13592864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13592864 was the thread here
- parenthephobia 10y ago> Everyone is already struggling to understand the complexities of this new ecosystem and how the pieces all fit together I believe Google's (and Amazon's) secret sauce is having large sysops and devops teams filled with subject matter experts - and the software's original developers. Efforts like Torus are trying to build zero-to-low-maintenance turn-key solutions, whilst Google is happy to have tens of full-time distributed storage engineers.
- fh973 10y agoFor Google at least the SRE teams for infrastructure components are not large, neither in total nor relative to the huge infrastructure that they are managing. You could call this operational scalability, it is made possible by decoupling service quality from individual pieces of hardware. The key ingredient are redundancy across relatively large failure domains and auto mated handling of all foreseeable events. Everything is built around this concept, compute with a fault-tolerant container scheduler, storage on a fault-tolerant file system, checksuming everywhere,... Another enabler is probably keeping things simple at the component level.
- vr46 10y agoI just spoke with some of the CoreOS team two days ago and Tectonic development is definitely being accelerated, which is critical given a few complete blockers in their setup (e.g. the VPC CIDR range in AWS must be 10.0.0.0/16 - Whoa there, Tex, that's gonna cause all sorts of conflicts with our internal network and Direct Connect)