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I made my side project (https://socialite.ooo https://socialite.ooo) to do personal logging, but I had a slightly different problem. I would remember small thin

by TACIXAT 10y ago

I made my side project (https://socialite.ooo https://socialite.ooo) to do personal logging, but I had a slightly different problem. I would remember small things about people but not their names. I was going to the dog park with my girlfriend a lot and couldn't believe how often we'd remember someone's dog's name, or the walk we met them on, but we wouldn't remember them. My solution was to correlate people to events, and events to locations. This allows you to not only remember what you were doing, but pivot off of any piece of information to better recall an event. Logging into a web app to enter information is a bit of a slog. I think making a mobile app is really crucial. That could even lead to some automation of the logging. For example, "You just called [CONTACT], would you like to create an event for this? ", or at the end of the day, "You texted [CONTACT] today, give a quick summary of what you spoke about". From there you can make the analysis smarter and smarter. It's really strange, all these companies have so much data about us. We don't have access to our own data in a decent format though. My call history is with my telco, my location history is with Google (and probably many others), my conversations are spread out among so many different apps. What happens when I want to query the data about me though?

xkxx 10y ago
> Socialite is a paid application. We made this choice in order to give you peace of mind. With no advertisers involved, you won't have to worry about who is getting their hands on your information. Pricing will be targeted at $10/year. Don't worry though, we won't charge you until you're making use of the application. > Socialite is a paid application. We made this choice in order to give you peace of mind. That sounds very funny. I would get much more peace of mind if you said that your client app is open source and uses strong encryption before saving data to your server. If you pay somebody, they must be trustworthy? That logic is laughable.
- pcmonk 10y ago
  I think the argument there is that their incentives line up with yours. For someone else to get your data, they'd have to get hacked. Most companies just give that data to the highest bidder. Of course, that business model means that they should be able to encrypt it all client side, and I think that would be wise.
- XorNot 10y ago
  It it's free, you're the product, not the customer.
  - dublinben 10y ago
    If it's proprietary software, it uses you.
    - Diederich 10y ago
      Can you expand on that?
  - xkxx 10y ago
    If it's not free, it doesn't mean you are not a product.
- TACIXAT 10y ago
  The problem of encrypting data and then making it searchable is tough. My career is in security so I did think about how to implement this for a while. It is its own product though, and security conscious users (myself included) are the minority. I decided to make an application and not sell user data or use it to sell ads. That is what that statement is saying.
pcmonk 10y ago
Sounds interesting, I'll check it out. > My call history is with my telco, my location history is with Google (and probably many others), my conversations are spread out among so many different apps. What happens when I want to query the data about me though? That's a real problem right now. I asked that question in almost the same terms many times when I worked for Urbit [0]. I no longer work for them, but they still seem to have the best long term solution to giving you access to all your own data (specifically by putting that data on your own server to begin with). [0] http://urbit.org http://urbit.org
- TACIXAT 10y ago
  Personal storage servers would be awesome if they got popular. I'll check urbit out. They would need a really flexible api for apps to hook into. If that happened though, I'd be stoked to sign up for an application and instead of choosing an authentication provider you chose a backend. I really like your approach of parsing the natural language to create log events. Going the other way, from data to descriptions could be really cool too. Finishing grad school is taking up my free time for the next few months, but maybe we could come together on these ideas later on.

by TACIXAT 10y ago

xkxx 10y ago

> Socialite is a paid application. We made this choice in order to give you peace of mind. With no advertisers involved, you won't have to worry about who is getting their hands on your information. Pricing will be targeted at $10/year. Don't worry though, we won't charge you until you're making use of the application. > Socialite is a paid application. We made this choice in order to give you peace of mind. That sounds very funny. I would get much more peace of mind if you said that your client app is open source and uses strong encryption before saving data to your server. If you pay somebody, they must be trustworthy? That logic is laughable.

pcmonk 10y ago
I think the argument there is that their incentives line up with yours. For someone else to get your data, they'd have to get hacked. Most companies just give that data to the highest bidder. Of course, that business model means that they should be able to encrypt it all client side, and I think that would be wise.
XorNot 10y ago
It it's free, you're the product, not the customer.
- dublinben 10y ago
  If it's proprietary software, it uses you.
  - Diederich 10y ago
    Can you expand on that?
- xkxx 10y ago
  If it's not free, it doesn't mean you are not a product.
TACIXAT 10y ago
The problem of encrypting data and then making it searchable is tough. My career is in security so I did think about how to implement this for a while. It is its own product though, and security conscious users (myself included) are the minority. I decided to make an application and not sell user data or use it to sell ads. That is what that statement is saying.

pcmonk 10y ago

Sounds interesting, I'll check it out. > My call history is with my telco, my location history is with Google (and probably many others), my conversations are spread out among so many different apps. What happens when I want to query the data about me though? That's a real problem right now. I asked that question in almost the same terms many times when I worked for Urbit [0]. I no longer work for them, but they still seem to have the best long term solution to giving you access to all your own data (specifically by putting that data on your own server to begin with). [0] http://urbit.org http://urbit.org

TACIXAT 10y ago
Personal storage servers would be awesome if they got popular. I'll check urbit out. They would need a really flexible api for apps to hook into. If that happened though, I'd be stoked to sign up for an application and instead of choosing an authentication provider you chose a backend. I really like your approach of parsing the natural language to create log events. Going the other way, from data to descriptions could be really cool too. Finishing grad school is taking up my free time for the next few months, but maybe we could come together on these ideas later on.