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Language learning also isn't about finding the one app to rule them all. It's about using various different approaches in parallel that, together, expose you to

Language learning also isn't about finding the one app to rule them all. It's about using various different approaches in parallel that, together, expose you to the breadth. This doesn't need to be better than Duolingo, it just needs to work a different part of the brain. One problem with Duolingo is that its fill-in-the-blank always comes with a word bank which makes them all pretty trivial. You don't need much understanding to choose between a bank of "girl", "cloud", "yesterday", and a single verb conjugation. Open-ended cloze tests, on the other hand, actually force me to think. I think it's outside of Clozemaster's scope to care about speaking. Didn't Duolingo remove speaking tests from their app recently because everyone toggled them off?

tasubotadas 10y ago
True. Learning a language just from a single app is a lost cause (at least for now and, IMO, for foreseeable future). >Open-ended cloze tests, on the other hand, actually force me to think. In this regard, the Duolingo web-app fares much better, because all the answers you have to type in. After you get used to that, using mobile app feels like cheating :). >Didn't Duolingo remove speaking tests from their app recently because everyone toggled them off? They are still there. Web app has even a version of that on steroids - they give you a sentence in English and you have to vocally translate it.