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I don't know how this website actually works, but if I wanted to make a website like this, here's how I would do it. The first thing on my mind would be avoidi
by nickysielicki 10y ago
I don't know how this website actually works, but if I wanted to make a website like this, here's how I would do it.
The first thing on my mind would be avoiding detection. You can't spin up 5 DO droplets and do your work from there-- every IP you use needs to be a residential IP, and you need thousands of IP addresses. You could go to the trouble of building your own botnet, but that's illegal and very difficult.
Luckily, there's an application called Hola that has convinced 20 million people to willingly join their botnet, and you can buy yourself access to it right here: https://luminati.io https://luminati.io .
You'd think that would be the hardest part, but that service means it's the easy part. Now I'd need to go learn PhantomJS and start creating accounts-- being sure to keep each account appearing at a particular IP address. The hardest part is generating some credibility for these accounts. They should always look like they're active-- so I'd be sure to have each account load far more posts than they vote on, and I would upvote plenty of things that I wasn't paid to upvote. Just to generate some randomness.
But that only gets me part of the way there-- these accounts would also need to contribute. My first thought is that you could just scan for reposts in the default subreddits and then repost popular top-level comments from the previous post. I've actually seen this pointed out a few times on reddit. With the amount of comments reddit gets, they probably don't have the resources to detect duplicates.
Hackernews would be significantly harder-- I have no idea how you could generate relevant comments without doing it by hand. That's my guess as to what they're doing.
- mej10 10y agoThe problem you described reminds me of this xkcd: https://xkcd.com/810/ https://xkcd.com/810/
- milankragujevic 10y agoYou don't have to use Luminati, just RE hola and take out the keys and then you can make unlimited accounts on there for free, like I used to do.
- brilliantcode 10y agowat do you mean by RE?
- milankragujevic 10y agoReverse engineer
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- mrtksn 10y agoLuminati is brilliant and evil idea at the same time, also is one of the reasons why I believe that at some point the voting manipulation will go a bit too far and the norm would become to connect all of the accounts to a single real person because otherwise it would be impossible to collect meaningful data about the user behaviour and the quality will nosedive. If bots become very intelligent and do create quality content, the money would be in manipulating social media not in running a social media service because nobody will be happy showing ads to bots - no matter how insightful comments they post. Reddit/Facebook/Twitter etc. will want their algorithm to cure the content even if the content itself is create by machines. As fraud becomes ubiquitous, the harder the tech giants will fight.
- ReverseCold 10y ago> Luckily, there's an application called Hola that has convinced 20 million people to willingly join their botnet. That's brilliant.