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I can assure you that the general feeling in South America is certainly doubtful, stories are coming in about families being detained and losing connections at
by phreack 10y ago
I can assure you that the general feeling in South America is certainly doubtful, stories are coming in about families being detained and losing connections at the airport merely for having Muslim sounding surnames and similar bullshit, and I keep hearing about people giving up on US holidays until things calm down... which it doesn't look like it will for a while.
- HalfwayToDice 10y agoI was detained at an airport in South America and missed my connection, presumably because I was foreign. It's just an anecdote, but so was yours.
- cyberferret 10y agoHere is another anecdote [0] - a well known British soccer player was denied entry into the US because he had a stamp from Iran in his passport, from a ONE DAY visit he did there to open a stadium. All anecdotal - but enough anecdotal evidence gathered together becomes a groundswell action... [0] - http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/football/former-sydney-fc-star-dwight-yorke-denied-entry-to-usa-due-to-iranian-stamp-in-passport-reports/news-story/f00d0b0210cb74afc34f2e01de427ec6 http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/football/former-sydney-fc-s...
- coldtea 10y agoAnd this has happened many times under Obama (and Bush) too.
- tukelully 10y agoEvery comment you've made in this thread has a tone of defensiveness and a lack of anything constructive as if everyone here is personally threatening you.
- nickff 10y agoArgentinians have faced delays, searches, and interrogations for at least 5 years due to their propensity to overstay on visits (often in Florida); I suspect that other South Americans have faced similar issues. Not all inconveniences faced by foreigners are a result of the new administration.
- pabloski 10y agoThis has been going on for years, since the foundation of the TSA. And there is another interesting metric to watch, the number of US citizens who choose to renounce US citizenship. There has been an emorrage under Obama's regime http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-09/record-number-americans-renounce-their-us-citizenship-2016 http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-09/record-number-ameri...
- HalfwayToDice 10y agozerohedge? really?
- coldtea 10y agoYes, really. Why? Not mainstream and "official" enough?
- akhilcacharya 10y agoNot mainstream, not official, and an alt-right conspiracy mouthpiece. No thanks.
- coldtea 10y agoSure, an echo chamber is way better than hearing other sides.
- akhilcacharya 10y agoThe "world is round" community is also an echo chamber. Not all echo chambers are illegitimate.
- coldtea 10y agoOnly politics are not science -- and truth there is not as clear cut as "world is round vs flat". (Heck, aside from Math, Physics and so called "hard sciences" science itself is often hardly scientific: riddled with special interests, tenured idiots, ideology, profit motives, etc). A lot of the cherished facts thrown around in politics and social issues can be (and are) made up, even if they come from censuses, public bureaus, NGOs, the OECD, the UN and other seemingly trusted sources. And even when the facts are hard and solid, their interpretation, or the consensus on the best course of action, can differ widely. As of course does the impact of those facts to various groups (the same social phenomenon, new law, technological change etc can make some richer and other poorer for example). An echo chamber in social life is never, ever, legitimate.