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Best for those who are there. Others with wrong-{skin color, religion, continent etc} must stay away.

by geodel 10y ago

rsync 10y ago
That's not true at all. I suspect that, unlike my own country, they enforce and respect the immigration laws on the books - truly a shock. However, even outside city centers you run into people of all types. On my last trip I found myself in Gruyere and there were muslim families and east asians touring at the rest stop. Inside Zurich there's a roughly Minneapolis-level background of racial diversity.
- senthil_rajasek 10y ago
  "Minneapolis-level background of racial diversity" Here is what the Minneapolis Fed bank president has to say about that, http://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-kashkari-shocked-black-unemployment-isnt-better-understood-2016-08-31 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-kashkari-shocked-black...
  - rsync 10y ago
    He's talking about national statistics. He just happened to be working in MPLS at the time: "Minneapolis Fed President Neel Kashkari said Wednesday he was “shocked” that the persistently higher national black unemployment rate relative to the rate for whites was not better understood." People who live in MPLS know that it has a huge immigrant population of somali and other east africans as well as (I think) the largest Hmong/Cambodian population in the United States. That is, in addition to the inner-city diversity of american blacks. Also, unlike many other cities, there are native americans. So it's not NYC or LA, but it's not Denver either. In fact, I think my original comparison may be off - MPLS is probably more diverse than Zurich. (I have lived in MPLS on two different occasions - 6 and 5 years each. I own a business in Zurich.)
    - senthil_rajasek 10y ago
      I am saying having racial diversity without equity is not a desirable outcome.
csomar 10y ago
You just deviated from the point we are discussing and went to something else completely (racism). It has its merits but the point is: Did Switzerland peace produce more wealth than Italy's war.
Raphmedia 10y ago
If you had the best house in the neighborhood and everyone tried to move from theirs and start living in yours instead of improving their own, wouldn't you be annoyed? I'm not defending racism and hate. Those are unacceptable. It is however understandable that they might grow annoyed of people profiting of their country without bringing anything good. From what I have heard it's not an issue of {skin color, religion, continent etc} but simply an issue of being foreign.

Best for those who are there. Others with wrong-{skin color, religion, continent etc} must stay away.

by geodel 10y ago

Best for those who are there. Others with wrong-{skin color, religion, continent etc} must stay away.

rsync 10y ago

That's not true at all. I suspect that, unlike my own country, they enforce and respect the immigration laws on the books - truly a shock. However, even outside city centers you run into people of all types. On my last trip I found myself in Gruyere and there were muslim families and east asians touring at the rest stop. Inside Zurich there's a roughly Minneapolis-level background of racial diversity.

senthil_rajasek 10y ago
"Minneapolis-level background of racial diversity" Here is what the Minneapolis Fed bank president has to say about that, http://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-kashkari-shocked-black-unemployment-isnt-better-understood-2016-08-31 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/feds-kashkari-shocked-black...
- rsync 10y ago
  He's talking about national statistics. He just happened to be working in MPLS at the time: "Minneapolis Fed President Neel Kashkari said Wednesday he was “shocked” that the persistently higher national black unemployment rate relative to the rate for whites was not better understood." People who live in MPLS know that it has a huge immigrant population of somali and other east africans as well as (I think) the largest Hmong/Cambodian population in the United States. That is, in addition to the inner-city diversity of american blacks. Also, unlike many other cities, there are native americans. So it's not NYC or LA, but it's not Denver either. In fact, I think my original comparison may be off - MPLS is probably more diverse than Zurich. (I have lived in MPLS on two different occasions - 6 and 5 years each. I own a business in Zurich.)
  - senthil_rajasek 10y ago
    I am saying having racial diversity without equity is not a desirable outcome.

csomar 10y ago

You just deviated from the point we are discussing and went to something else completely (racism). It has its merits but the point is: Did Switzerland peace produce more wealth than Italy's war.

Raphmedia 10y ago

If you had the best house in the neighborhood and everyone tried to move from theirs and start living in yours instead of improving their own, wouldn't you be annoyed? I'm not defending racism and hate. Those are unacceptable. It is however understandable that they might grow annoyed of people profiting of their country without bringing anything good. From what I have heard it's not an issue of {skin color, religion, continent etc} but simply an issue of being foreign.