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What a poorly timed article...with Russian aggression given implicit license by Trump's election and the rising tide of far right nationalism in Western Europe,

What a poorly timed article...with Russian aggression given implicit license by Trump's election and the rising tide of far right nationalism in Western Europe, the author just might get their (very bizarre and offensive imo) wish of a return to "a shared experience of occupation and exclusion, the permanent-seeming weight of economic backwardness, treasured memories of defeat".

vixen99 10y ago
It seems that HN is an acceptable political platform mostly if Trump's in the firing line. Does a statistical analysis of comments support my contention. No, it's just an impression. If I've got this wrong, I'm sorry.
- MaxfordAndSons 10y ago
  I don't think my point is very political - Trump has made his sympathy with Russia and Putin, and his preference for foreign non-intervention (except in the Middle East) abundantly clear. I mean, yea the tone of my comment indicates that I don't think it's a good thing, but are you really going to argue that Trump and the other ascendent right wing leaders in Europe are going to decrease Russian expansion and aggression? And as far as your comment, I think you are wrong. There are plenty of centrist and right wing voices on HN. I get push back on a lot of my leftist political comments. I mean we're making competing anecdotal arguments to take it for what it's worth, but just look at this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13663629 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13663629 The top comment is claiming to find the ideal of a globalized community is "deeply cynical". Don't be a snowflake who worries that everyone's biased against you because of your politics, just make good and good-faith arguments.
  - vixen99 10y ago
    Have you done the statistics? If not then should we not agree to disagree? I guess we both have other things to do than read HN all day. One could write a scraper I suppose. On your snowflake accusation (wow - I've never been accused of that; usually the other way round! I don't recognize the concept of being 'offended' as anything other than a triviality so I'm mystified by the present turn of events in the West) I will add that my comment was not political. Any neutral observer will note the animus (irrespective of its level on HN) against Trump. That's not taking a side. On the other hand I'm a snowflake insofar as understanding that political views are not welcome on HN and it's nice to relax into another world where politics are largely absent unless closely connected with an IT issue. That was my point. You might think that I didn't have to read your comment and you'd be right! I'll have to get over it. Thanks for the response. Making good and good-faith arguments - I'll go with that!
    - mempko 10y ago
      This brings up an interesting value that is part of HN community. That politics and IT are separable. I personally believe they are not and that it is a fantasy to think so. But we try anyway.
      - smsm42 10y ago
        It depends on actions. If people try to politicize technology, they'll succeed. If they try to avoid it, it'll likely succeed too.

vixen99 10y ago

It seems that HN is an acceptable political platform mostly if Trump's in the firing line. Does a statistical analysis of comments support my contention. No, it's just an impression. If I've got this wrong, I'm sorry.

MaxfordAndSons 10y ago
I don't think my point is very political - Trump has made his sympathy with Russia and Putin, and his preference for foreign non-intervention (except in the Middle East) abundantly clear. I mean, yea the tone of my comment indicates that I don't think it's a good thing, but are you really going to argue that Trump and the other ascendent right wing leaders in Europe are going to decrease Russian expansion and aggression? And as far as your comment, I think you are wrong. There are plenty of centrist and right wing voices on HN. I get push back on a lot of my leftist political comments. I mean we're making competing anecdotal arguments to take it for what it's worth, but just look at this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13663629 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13663629 The top comment is claiming to find the ideal of a globalized community is "deeply cynical". Don't be a snowflake who worries that everyone's biased against you because of your politics, just make good and good-faith arguments.
- vixen99 10y ago
  Have you done the statistics? If not then should we not agree to disagree? I guess we both have other things to do than read HN all day. One could write a scraper I suppose. On your snowflake accusation (wow - I've never been accused of that; usually the other way round! I don't recognize the concept of being 'offended' as anything other than a triviality so I'm mystified by the present turn of events in the West) I will add that my comment was not political. Any neutral observer will note the animus (irrespective of its level on HN) against Trump. That's not taking a side. On the other hand I'm a snowflake insofar as understanding that political views are not welcome on HN and it's nice to relax into another world where politics are largely absent unless closely connected with an IT issue. That was my point. You might think that I didn't have to read your comment and you'd be right! I'll have to get over it. Thanks for the response. Making good and good-faith arguments - I'll go with that!
  - mempko 10y ago
    This brings up an interesting value that is part of HN community. That politics and IT are separable. I personally believe they are not and that it is a fantasy to think so. But we try anyway.
    - smsm42 10y ago
      It depends on actions. If people try to politicize technology, they'll succeed. If they try to avoid it, it'll likely succeed too.