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If this keeps up, that trope of CSI's "enhance, zoom, enhance" will become reality.

by Kroniker 10y ago

misnome 10y ago
Except instead of enhance you have "Make up something based on your training set".
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- accountface 10y ago
  Our brains kind of do that a lot anyway
  - mistercow 10y ago
    I wonder which is better, actually. On the one hand, a lot of people will swear that what their internal pattern matcher produces is reality (although people with training tend to know that you can't put that much stock in it). So maybe the output of a computer will feel a little less real to laymen. But I kind of doubt it. I have a feeling that, for example, it's going to be difficult to explain to a jury that the image that the computer spat out from eight pixels on a security feed is not reliable – that any resemblance they see to the defendant is simply not relevant. If an artist took those eight pixels and drew a picture, they'd be laughed out of the room. If a computer does it, people primed by shows like CSI might think that it's actually valid. Maybe you can appeal to people's common sense, and show them the original input. A crafty defense might show alternative "enhancements" based on non-face training sets to drive the point home. But in the end, we're probably going to need to ban this kind of technology as evidence to avoid confusing jurors.
  - Cerium 10y ago
    Just like the old man's testimony in "12 angry men". He didn't see, but his mind filled in the wrong details.
andrewclunn 10y ago
"I was robbed!" "We'll put out a call." "Don't you want to know what he looked like?" "That's okay, we've got a likely composite sketch on file."
dghughes 10y ago
It has, almost, pretty close. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/google-brain-super-resolution-zoom-enhance/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/googl...

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If this keeps up, that trope of CSI's "enhance, zoom, enhance" will become reality.

by Kroniker 10y ago

If this keeps up, that trope of CSI's "enhance, zoom, enhance" will become reality.

misnome 10y ago
Except instead of enhance you have "Make up something based on your training set".
- deleted 10y ago
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- accountface 10y ago
  Our brains kind of do that a lot anyway
  - mistercow 10y ago
    I wonder which is better, actually. On the one hand, a lot of people will swear that what their internal pattern matcher produces is reality (although people with training tend to know that you can't put that much stock in it). So maybe the output of a computer will feel a little less real to laymen. But I kind of doubt it. I have a feeling that, for example, it's going to be difficult to explain to a jury that the image that the computer spat out from eight pixels on a security feed is not reliable – that any resemblance they see to the defendant is simply not relevant. If an artist took those eight pixels and drew a picture, they'd be laughed out of the room. If a computer does it, people primed by shows like CSI might think that it's actually valid. Maybe you can appeal to people's common sense, and show them the original input. A crafty defense might show alternative "enhancements" based on non-face training sets to drive the point home. But in the end, we're probably going to need to ban this kind of technology as evidence to avoid confusing jurors.
  - Cerium 10y ago
    Just like the old man's testimony in "12 angry men". He didn't see, but his mind filled in the wrong details.
andrewclunn 10y ago
"I was robbed!" "We'll put out a call." "Don't you want to know what he looked like?" "That's okay, we've got a likely composite sketch on file."
dghughes 10y ago
It has, almost, pretty close. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/google-brain-super-resolution-zoom-enhance/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/02/googl...