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Illiteracy is hard to really pin down, as other commenters say. I'll provide another anecdata point too: Wife is a public HS teacher. Many of her native Englis
by Balgair 10y ago
Illiteracy is hard to really pin down, as other commenters say. I'll provide another anecdata point too:
Wife is a public HS teacher. Many of her native English speaking kids are illiterate yet use their phones like they were air to breathe. This may seem contradictory, but it hinges on the definition of illiteracy. They can read a word, yes, even type them out with a speed unmatched by anyone over 25, but they do not type more than 7 words at a time (again anecdata). That 7 word number is about the same as your working memory limit, and there seems to be a causation there, though it may be correlation. The kids just cannot read a sentence of any real length, like many of the ones posted on HN. Imagine trying to read Aztec Hieroglyphs. You have to decipher each word from the drawings on a stone fresco and it is not easy work to do this. By the time you reach the end of a line of these strange drawings, you have forgotten what the first word was. That is how the kids see reading, they try to decipher the word, and then about halfway through the sentence they have forgotten the first word. The meaning of the article is totally lost in the exertion of translating the symbols. That is how many of her kids are illiterate in the age of the Web.
- monodeldiablo 10y agoJesus. You just described how my son reads. He's 5. My condolences to your poor wife. I am prepared to accept that I'm wrong on this one. Perhaps I've been giving all the kids in my community too much credit, or maybe I live in a community of outliers. Whatever the case, their ability to converse with me in conceptual English is still impressive, and the schools here are shit.
- Balgair 10y agoSounds like a good place then! Her kids can talk just fine, well sort of, there are a lot of SpEd kids and non-English speakers in those 40 kid classes. But the 'median' kids talk without issues. It's mostly limited to reading and writing. As for maths? Fuggeddaboutit. The mean SAT score was a 325 in math, and that's when you take out the kids that started fights during the SAT.
- vorotato 10y agoYeah "Miller's number" the 7(+-2) ___ limit, is a myth.
- Balgair 10y agoSource? I haven't heard this yet. Is it like 5 then?