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I don't see how a code of conduct helps the situation you just described. Most CoCs I know do not have a clear cut rule on this, merely broad statements which y

I don't see how a code of conduct helps the situation you just described. Most CoCs I know do not have a clear cut rule on this, merely broad statements which you can spend time arguing cover the case or not. This stuff is all shortcuts, to be honest.

acdha 10y ago
Picking a random example: https://2016.djangocon.us/coc/ https://2016.djangocon.us/coc/ “All communication should be appropriate for a professional audience including people of many different backgrounds. Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate for any conference venue, including talks. Be kind to others. Do not insult or put down other attendees. Behave professionally. Remember that harassment and sexist, racist, or exclusionary jokes are not appropriate for DjangoCon. Attendees violating these rules may be asked to leave the conference without a refund at the sole discretion of the conference organizers.” So if someone decided that they wanted to have a bunch of bikini pictures in their slides or to crack jokes about something being ghetto it's starting from a different place. Because the conference organizers thought about this in advance they don't need to worry about making policy on the fly or having different people give different off-the-cuff answers and then be hammered for later changes. Just as something like a coding style guide doesn't solve every question in software, this doesn't solve every issue related to personal conduct but it sets an overall direction and gives people an idea of what to expect: someone going to a conference with that CoC would know that the expectations are set to “business professional” rather than “hanging with my bros at the bar”. You might think that something is obvious but once any event expands beyond a small homogeneous group of people all bets are off. (And, yes, it's shortcuts just as all policies, laws, etc. are because it's easier to have a general trend known in advance than to try to reason about it from first principles after the fact.)

acdha 10y ago

Picking a random example: https://2016.djangocon.us/coc/ https://2016.djangocon.us/coc/ “All communication should be appropriate for a professional audience including people of many different backgrounds. Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate for any conference venue, including talks. Be kind to others. Do not insult or put down other attendees. Behave professionally. Remember that harassment and sexist, racist, or exclusionary jokes are not appropriate for DjangoCon. Attendees violating these rules may be asked to leave the conference without a refund at the sole discretion of the conference organizers.” So if someone decided that they wanted to have a bunch of bikini pictures in their slides or to crack jokes about something being ghetto it's starting from a different place. Because the conference organizers thought about this in advance they don't need to worry about making policy on the fly or having different people give different off-the-cuff answers and then be hammered for later changes. Just as something like a coding style guide doesn't solve every question in software, this doesn't solve every issue related to personal conduct but it sets an overall direction and gives people an idea of what to expect: someone going to a conference with that CoC would know that the expectations are set to “business professional” rather than “hanging with my bros at the bar”. You might think that something is obvious but once any event expands beyond a small homogeneous group of people all bets are off. (And, yes, it's shortcuts just as all policies, laws, etc. are because it's easier to have a general trend known in advance than to try to reason about it from first principles after the fact.)