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Question: now that the Google workaround no longer works for WSJ links, are they even allowed on HN? @dang has implied that paywalled articles without workarou

Question: now that the Google workaround no longer works for WSJ links, are they even allowed on HN? @dang has implied that paywalled articles without workarounds aren't allowed.

gulbanana 10y ago
i had the same thought, i can't read the article at all
maverick_iceman 10y ago
Use this bookmarklet someone posted in HN a few days ago: javascript:window.location="https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u="+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href); https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u="+encodeURIComponent(window.l...
- downandout 10y ago
  For those that read this, here [1] is a draggable bookmarklet that will instantly unlock WSJ articles based on the above code: [1] http://salzeko.com/wsj http://salzeko.com/wsj But 99% of HN users are not going to see this and the whole reason the "web" link exists is to aid in the Google workaround, because that was the gold standard until now. WSJ has now put itself into a special class of sites. Unless I post my link on every single WSJ story submitted to HN, non-subscribers (the vast majority of people seeing it here) won't be able to read it, which means they can't discuss it etc. Therefore it would make sense to me that WSJ links should be blocked here.
forgotmypw 10y ago
I mod a large sub-reddit, and I added an automoderator rule that basically tells people to paste the text of the article into the comments or the link is taken down after 2 hours. It is very effective.
- buro9 10y ago
  This is not a good idea. There is no fair use for the copying of a whole text, and whilst the person who posts it is the one who has infringed copyright I am not so sure that you could consider yourself to not be involved.
  - dingaling 10y ago
    I agree and it boggles me when I see entire texts pasted along with the footer of the source page as well! 'Share me on Facebook'. For fora where the posters aren't inclined to paraphrase the original story, it's usually more than sufficient to paste only the second and perhaps third paragraphs of a news story; those generally contain the actual news.
teh_klev 10y ago
Always worth checking archive.is: http://archive.is/gVhNZ http://archive.is/gVhNZ

Question: now that the Google workaround no longer works for WSJ links, are they even allowed on HN? @dang has implied that paywalled articles without workarounds aren't allowed.

gulbanana 10y ago

i had the same thought, i can't read the article at all

maverick_iceman 10y ago

Use this bookmarklet someone posted in HN a few days ago: javascript:window.location="https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u="+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href); https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u="+encodeURIComponent(window.l...

downandout 10y ago
For those that read this, here [1] is a draggable bookmarklet that will instantly unlock WSJ articles based on the above code: [1] http://salzeko.com/wsj http://salzeko.com/wsj But 99% of HN users are not going to see this and the whole reason the "web" link exists is to aid in the Google workaround, because that was the gold standard until now. WSJ has now put itself into a special class of sites. Unless I post my link on every single WSJ story submitted to HN, non-subscribers (the vast majority of people seeing it here) won't be able to read it, which means they can't discuss it etc. Therefore it would make sense to me that WSJ links should be blocked here.

forgotmypw 10y ago

I mod a large sub-reddit, and I added an automoderator rule that basically tells people to paste the text of the article into the comments or the link is taken down after 2 hours. It is very effective.

buro9 10y ago
This is not a good idea. There is no fair use for the copying of a whole text, and whilst the person who posts it is the one who has infringed copyright I am not so sure that you could consider yourself to not be involved.
- dingaling 10y ago
  I agree and it boggles me when I see entire texts pasted along with the footer of the source page as well! 'Share me on Facebook'. For fora where the posters aren't inclined to paraphrase the original story, it's usually more than sufficient to paste only the second and perhaps third paragraphs of a news story; those generally contain the actual news.

teh_klev 10y ago

Always worth checking archive.is: http://archive.is/gVhNZ http://archive.is/gVhNZ