> Toll roads everywhere just creates another revenue stream that can never be gotten rid of. Well it can be 'gotten rid of' once car usage is 'gotten rid of'.

> Toll roads everywhere just creates another revenue stream that can never be gotten rid of. Well it can be 'gotten rid of' once car usage is 'gotten rid of'. In fact, it would eliminate itself with no intervention. Without tolling there is no line-item cost for people who choose to live in car-only suburbs and developments; the costs of fuel and insurance and car maintenance are all just aggregated into 'cost of owning a car'. Adding a per-usage cost, for example each time they exited from their suburb, would provide an evident cost that couldn't be ignored. And would also level the playing field for public transport, which generally has a per-usage cost too.